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  #501  
Old March 18th 11, 02:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Duane Hebert[_4_]
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes

On 3/18/2011 10:03 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:

We have discussed so many issues here, but I remember that we
discussed stupid design in the engineering of bike lanes and city
planning...

Well, a smart listener called in NPR and reminded the experts that
"Tsunami" is a Japanese word and they could have placed easily the
reactors on higher ground expecting such events. That would have been
INTELLIGENT DESIGN.


Some would say that intelligent design would be to perfect fusion.

But I wouldn't pick on the Japanese. US has plants on fault lines.

For example check the safety section in this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_Power_Plant

or
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42103936...-asia-pacific/

We hear that the technology is in place to protect us and that the risk
is acceptable. WRT the potential danger here I doubt both of those claims.

Wherever we turn though we see stupid design, particularly when it
comes to bike facilities, a very low priority in safety since we are
the only casualties. We have mixed paths that mix people, dogs and
bikes and we have bike lanes that disappear. The issue is --more than
an oversight-- that we live in a hierarchical system --forget
democracy-- where decisions are taken without the feedback of the
people, who must shut up and accept what they get.


I think that the majority of decisions are taken based on profit
projections.
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  #502  
Old March 18th 11, 06:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
kolldata
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes



while listening to BBC and considering dikes as a manadatory Japanese
Nuke structure, I learned used rods were place in the attic.
How effective.

  #503  
Old March 18th 11, 06:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes

On Mar 18, 10:36*am, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 3/18/2011 10:03 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:



We have discussed so many issues here, but I remember that we
discussed stupid design in the engineering of bike lanes and city
planning...


Well, a smart listener called in NPR and reminded the experts that
"Tsunami" is a Japanese word and they could have placed easily the
reactors on higher ground expecting such events. That would have been
INTELLIGENT DESIGN.


Some would say that intelligent design would be to perfect fusion.

But I wouldn't pick on the Japanese. US has plants on fault lines.

For example check the safety section in this link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diablo_Canyon_Power_Plant

orhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42103936/ns/world_news-asia-pacific/

We hear that the technology is in place to protect us and that the risk
is acceptable. *WRT the potential danger here I doubt both of those claims.


I see, but notice the Japanese plants survived the earthquake but not
the Tsunami.


Wherever we turn though we see stupid design, particularly when it
comes to bike facilities, a very low priority in safety since we are
the only casualties. We have mixed paths that mix people, dogs and
bikes and we have bike lanes that disappear. The issue is --more than
an oversight-- that we live in a hierarchical system --forget
democracy-- where decisions are taken without the feedback of the
people, who must shut up and accept what they get.


I think that the majority of decisions are taken based on profit
projections.


Got it. Perhaps decisions are solely based on profit, and then ****
happens.

What worries me that every project seem to be closed to feedback from
the bottom, whether that's cyclists testing a facility or a
catastrophic event. For example, everybody knew a major hurricane
would overwhelm the dams in New Orleans and nobody took action.
  #504  
Old March 18th 11, 07:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Duane Hebert[_4_]
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes

On 3/18/2011 2:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:

Wherever we turn though we see stupid design, particularly when it
comes to bike facilities, a very low priority in safety since we are
the only casualties. We have mixed paths that mix people, dogs and
bikes and we have bike lanes that disappear. The issue is --more than
an oversight-- that we live in a hierarchical system --forget
democracy-- where decisions are taken without the feedback of the
people, who must shut up and accept what they get.


I think that the majority of decisions are taken based on profit
projections.


Got it. Perhaps decisions are solely based on profit, and then ****
happens.

What worries me that every project seem to be closed to feedback from
the bottom, whether that's cyclists testing a facility or a
catastrophic event. For example, everybody knew a major hurricane
would overwhelm the dams in New Orleans and nobody took action.


In the case of New Orleans, it's worse than that.
Money was allocated to take action but then funding was cut by George Jr.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...katrina_t mln

Good job Brownie. It's not always an engineering problem.
  #505  
Old March 18th 11, 07:52 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes

On Mar 18, 3:02*pm, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 3/18/2011 2:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:



Wherever we turn though we see stupid design, particularly when it
comes to bike facilities, a very low priority in safety since we are
the only casualties. We have mixed paths that mix people, dogs and
bikes and we have bike lanes that disappear. The issue is --more than
an oversight-- that we live in a hierarchical system --forget
democracy-- where decisions are taken without the feedback of the
people, who must shut up and accept what they get.


I think that the majority of decisions are taken based on profit
projections.


Got it. Perhaps decisions are solely based on profit, and then ****
happens.


What worries me that every project seem to be closed to feedback from
the bottom, whether that's cyclists testing a facility or a
catastrophic event. For example, everybody knew a major hurricane
would overwhelm the dams in New Orleans and nobody took action.


In the case of New Orleans, it's worse than that.
Money was allocated to take action but then funding was cut by George Jr.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeli...dly=true&katri....

Good job Brownie. *It's not always an engineering problem.


Well, it's always a political issue somehow intertwined with the
engineering.

Now all the streets are being rebuilt with the largess of the Obama's
funds while other projects go hungry. Public transportation is one of
those. And so is bicycling as the ultimate simple solution to our
local transportation woes.
  #506  
Old March 18th 11, 07:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
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Default OT - Moving to Japan --Talking about intelligent design, reactorsand bike lanes

On Mar 18, 2:02*pm, kolldata wrote:
while listening to BBC and considering dikes as a manadatory Japanese
Nuke structure, I learned *used rods were place in the attic.
How effective.


QUESTION:
“Spent fuel rods stored in the attic and emergency generators in the
basement.
Hindsight is 20/20 and all that but, isn't it rather obvious that this
is precisely backwards?”

FEEDBACK:

"Three engineers at GE quit over the stupidity of this design - 45
years ago. They predicted exactly the design flaws which have
occurred. If you think about these incredibly stupid nuclear reactors,
you can't help wondering how much greed and cost-cutti*ng enters into
the design of all nuclear reactors."

"Engineers designed this crap. WTF? Heat rises, flooding shuts down
diesel generators*. D'uh!"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social..._80893873.html
 




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