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On 10/27/2012 11:41 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:35�pm, SMS wrote: As I pointed out, the fraudulent cyclehelmets.org site simply omitted the fact that adult cycling rates increased by 44% following the MHL in Victoria, and only talked about a decrease in youth cycling rates. Of course neither of those changes could be attributed to the MHL. Adults didn't start riding more because they thought that now that they were forced to wear a helmet that they were magnitudes safer, and minors didn't start cycling less because they were so upset over the law. So where can we find your evidence that the above nonsense is true? (44% _increase_ in cycling after telling people it's so dangerous that it's now illegal to ride without a foam hat???) And why do you suppose that astonishing fact has somehow slipped by so many cycling advocacy organizations? It could be that you're inventing the +44% entirely on your own. More likely, you've found one bit of data that's actually inapplicable (such as, a 20 year increase that's smaller than the population increase and doesn't factor in the original sharp drop in cycling), i.e. one bit of data that contradicts the dozens of data sources that everyone else has deemed much more reliable. But given your habit of citing nothing, just slinging anonymous numbers, you should understand why people here discount your claims. More concisely (for the TLDR crowd): Put up or shut up, Stephen. - Frank Krygowski 5 out of 3 (sic) doctors paid for their opinion recommend wearing foam bicycle hats. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 11-06-2012 20:26, Tom $herman (-_-) wrote:
On 10/26/2012 3:57 PM, Phil W Lee wrote: Scharf comes from a strange planet, where truth and fiction are reversed. I believe Scharf is delusional. Is there an echo in here? -- Wes Groleau “Would the prodigal have gone home if the elder brother was running the farm?” — James Jordan |
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On 10/26/2012 10:26 PM, Dan O wrote:
On Oct 25, 8:12 pm, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:37:46 PM UTC-4, SMS wrote: On 10/25/2012 4:04 PM, AMuzi wrote: If anyone here has an argument which we didn't thoroughly beat to death in 1998, please start a new helmet thread and enlighten me. Actually a lot has changed since 1998. Snipped Yes, a lot has changed. One thing is that it is nowextremely difficult to find a hard-shell bicycling helmet in the average bicycle shop. I'm still using my '86 Vetta until I can afford a new POC. snip The MIPS system in mine [1] feels like it might actually work. [1] http://www.pocsports.com/en/product/1391/trabec-race-mips -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 7/11/2012 12:26 PM, Tom $herman (-_-) wrote:
On 10/26/2012 3:57 PM, Phil W Lee wrote: Sir Ridesalot considered Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:04:43 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: On Thursday, October 25, 2012 8:37:46 PM UTC-4, SMS wrote: On 10/25/2012 4:04 PM, AMuzi wrote: If anyone here has an argument which we didn't thoroughly beat to death in 1998, please start a new helmet thread and enlighten me. Actually a lot has changed since 1998. Snipped 14 years ago, some people still believed that cycling rates fell if helmets were either promoted or mandated, now we have solid evidence that this is not the case. Snipped Pray tell us; where in the world has bicycle usage remained the same or risen AFTER MANDATORY HELMET LAWS were introduced? Not Australia or New Zealand. Studies showed that mandatory helmet laws DO cause cycling rates to DROP. Frank has posted data and links to those studies many times. ;) Are you visiting from another galaxy? ;) Scharf comes from a strange planet, where truth and fiction are reversed. I believe Scharf is delusional. I think you'll find there are more people riding bike here in Australia now than before the MHL was introduced. -- JS |
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On 10/25/2012 11:17 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Grrrr... only avaiable in 53 to 57cm. My inflated ego requires a 59cm hat size. Ha ha. I have a 60-cm head. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 10/26/2012 12:06 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
And in fact, there has been more knowledge gained since 1998. For example, the much greater dangers of rotational, rather than translational, accelerations of the brain and skull were not commonly recognized back then. (Helmets do nothing against rotational acceleration, and may even exacerbate it.) Hmmm... http://www.pocsports.com/en/content/view/new-technologies#MIPS -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 10/27/2012 2:39 PM, Dan O wrote:
[...] Hey, you want to help make things better? I hear Ohio is *the* pivotal battleground for election of the next POTUS. I know we can count on you to help make it happen. (Pull it off and you truly *will* be our hero.) "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Ioseb Besarionis dze Dzhugashvili -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 7/11/2012 3:04 PM, Tom $herman (-_-) wrote:
On 10/27/2012 2:39 PM, Dan O wrote: [...] Hey, you want to help make things better? I hear Ohio is *the* pivotal battleground for election of the next POTUS. I know we can count on you to help make it happen. (Pull it off and you truly *will* be our hero.) "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Ioseb Besarionis dze Dzhugashvili What did he say about those who rig the voting machines? -- JS. |
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On 10/27/2012 11:24 PM, Dan O wrote:
The helmet may actually be part of a total precautionary stance that *does* reduce chances of a crash. Sounds contrary to conventional wisdom, I know; but I've reflected deeply on this, and I honestly think I have a pretty healthy grip on affairs. The lapses are probably more likely when I'm carefree, but by the same token I ride hardest when my blood is really pumping and I'm hauling ass (standard commuting). Your standard commute involves pulling a donkey with the bike? -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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On 10/27/2012 1:20 AM, Phil W Lee wrote:
SMS considered Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:07:31 -0700 the perfect time to write: On 10/26/2012 8:17 PM, Dan O wrote: I'm not even trying to change anybody's opinion - just looking for a tangible shred of respect buried underneath one of them. It is not necessary to respect those that lie to advance their own agenda. **** off then. offensive lying libelous crap snipped Or insane delusional rantings (of Scharf, that is). -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W Post Free or Die! |
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