Mr.Tuffy liner for road bikes ok? Or 2nd tube?

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 4:20:54 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story
short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires.
Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just
unacceptable. So thumbs down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must
be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c
25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop
every time the overlap comes around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it
over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling
thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness
all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the
sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had
to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially
unfixable with those thin REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not
matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate"
their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant
(Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires
bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in
there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of
thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr
tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the radius
inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the rim side.
I'll see when the new tube gets here next week. There should be
enough compliance in the rubber so there won;t be any wrinkles.
Hopefully. The othe issue is that the smallest these tubes come is
700 x 23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a another
thick tube in there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the part
about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I remember the
conclusion, made simply with no effort to convince: "... and I don't
get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old 27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels. Some
27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the Mr.Tuffy which
should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be pressed into
service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of turbine oil along in
case it starts screeching.

Mr tuffys have overlap problems and chafing problems and are not always wide enuf
Do the tire thing and don't worry about the 27-in-a-28, just take care to cut it so there is no gap left. The tire it is going in is not going to expand more than trivially, as it still has a bead. If you think there wull be some expansion then cut the liner you make 1/8" too long, butt the ends, and let there be a tiny bulge inward a few inches away, which will flatten if you are right.

On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 2:03:22 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-04 13:46, wrote:
Short run...the overlap is problemaric.


Have you tried?
Have -you- tried. I did. The edge of the Mr Tuffy chafed a hole in my tube. I think it it was a side edge, not an edge I created by cutting, but located in the overlap.

On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 16:20:54 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story
short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires.
Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just
unacceptable. So thumbs down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must
be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c
25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop
every time the overlap comes around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it
over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling
thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness
all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the
sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had
to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially
unfixable with those thin REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not
matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate"
their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant
(Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires
bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in
there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of
thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr
tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the radius
inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the rim side.
I'll see when the new tube gets here next week. There should be
enough compliance in the rubber so there won;t be any wrinkles.
Hopefully. The othe issue is that the smallest these tubes come is
700 x 23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a another
thick tube in there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the part
about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I remember the
conclusion, made simply with no effort to convince: "... and I don't
get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old 27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels. Some
27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the Mr.Tuffy which
should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be pressed into
service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of turbine oil along in
case it starts screeching.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/sear...-tires?ppp=ALL
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 2017-09-05 17:09, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 4:20:54 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures.
Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST
Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and
then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs
down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires.
They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that
overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy?
Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes
around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and
slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued
selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all
same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers
off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same
for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because
those things are essentially unfixable with those thin
REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does
not matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers
"inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of
hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that
makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and
how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it
be good for a couple of thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their
own mr tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the
radius inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the
rim side. I'll see when the new tube gets here next week.
There should be enough compliance in the rubber so there
won;t be any wrinkles. Hopefully. The othe issue is that
the smallest these tubes come is 700 x 23/25mm and even
23mm is a bit large if there is a another thick tube in
there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the
part about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I
remember the conclusion, made simply with no effort to
convince: "... and I don't get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old
27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels.
Some 27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the
Mr.Tuffy which should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be
pressed into service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of
turbine oil along in case it starts screeching.

Mr tuffys have overlap problems and chafing problems and are not
always wide enuf Do the tire thing and don't worry about the
27-in-a-28, just take care to cut it so there is no gap left. The
tire it is going in is not going to expand more than trivially, as it
still has a bead. If you think there wull be some expansion then cut
the liner you make 1/8" too long, butt the ends, and let there be a
tiny bulge inward a few inches away, which will flatten if you are
right.


Cuttin the fat 27" tire tread seems like creating the perfect tube-pinch
opportunity.

What I'd with Mr.Tuffy liners on the road bike is to lay a sliver of old
tube between liner and tube. Should anything chafe it would be that
sacrificial part. On the MTB I have an regular tube sleeved over the
liner - No chafing, not even inside that sacrificial sleeve. I also cut
the corners round and sandpaper the edges at the ends.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-09-05 23:22, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 16:20:54 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story
short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires.
Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just
unacceptable. So thumbs down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must
be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c
25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop
every time the overlap comes around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it
over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling
thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness
all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the
sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had
to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially
unfixable with those thin REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not
matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate"
their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant
(Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires
bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in
there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of
thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr
tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the radius
inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the rim side.
I'll see when the new tube gets here next week. There should be
enough compliance in the rubber so there won;t be any wrinkles.
Hopefully. The othe issue is that the smallest these tubes come is
700 x 23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a another
thick tube in there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the part
about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I remember the
conclusion, made simply with no effort to convince: "... and I don't
get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old 27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels. Some
27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the Mr.Tuffy which
should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be pressed into
service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of turbine oil along in
case it starts screeching.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/sear...-tires?ppp=ALL


Amazing that there still is a market. Must be a lot of older guys like
us tooling around on their teenager bikes :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-09-05 17:26, Doug Landau wrote:
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 2:03:22 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-04 13:46, wrote:
Short run...the overlap is problemaric.


Have you tried?
Have -you- tried.


Yes. Using Mr.Tuffy in the MTB tires since about two years.


... I did. The edge of the Mr Tuffy chafed a hole in
my tube. I think it it was a side edge, not an edge I created by
cutting, but located in the overlap.


I wrote in the other answer how I did it. Key is to not put that liner
in as is. First the four corners have to be cut round. Takes only
seconds with scissors. Then I use a fine sandpaper sponge to round the
cut lines at the ends of the liner. Plus a sacrificial piece of tubing
between real tube and liner. That piece wouldn't even be needed because
I saw no visible chafing and I look in there avery time I install a new
tire (the rear wears fast on the MTB).

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 9:19:20 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 17:09, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 4:20:54 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures.
Long story short I will definitely not recommend CST
Conquistare tires. Wore out in less than 1200mi and
then weakened which is just unacceptable. So thumbs
down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires.
They must be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that
overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy?
Like whop .. whop .. whop every time the overlap comes
around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and
slide it over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued
selling thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all
same thickness all around but now the thickness tapers
off towards the sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same
for Sunlite which I had to re-order yesterday because
those things are essentially unfixable with those thin
REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does
not matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers
"inflate" their vehicle tires with some sort of
hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction foam?) that
makes the tires bullet-proof. What material is it and
how do they get it in there thoroughly enough? Would it
be good for a couple of thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their
own mr tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the
radius inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the
rim side. I'll see when the new tube gets here next week.
There should be enough compliance in the rubber so there
won;t be any wrinkles. Hopefully. The othe issue is that
the smallest these tubes come is 700 x 23/25mm and even
23mm is a bit large if there is a another thick tube in
there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the
part about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I
remember the conclusion, made simply with no effort to
convince: "... and I don't get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old
27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels.
Some 27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the
Mr.Tuffy which should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be
pressed into service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of
turbine oil along in case it starts screeching.

Mr tuffys have overlap problems and chafing problems and are not
always wide enuf Do the tire thing and don't worry about the
27-in-a-28, just take care to cut it so there is no gap left. The
tire it is going in is not going to expand more than trivially, as it
still has a bead. If you think there wull be some expansion then cut
the liner you make 1/8" too long, butt the ends, and let there be a
tiny bulge inward a few inches away, which will flatten if you are
right.


Cuttin the fat 27" tire tread seems like creating the perfect tube-pinch
opportunity.

What I'd with Mr.Tuffy liners on the road bike is to lay a sliver of old
tube between liner and tube. Should anything chafe it would be that
sacrificial part. On the MTB I have an regular tube sleeved over the
liner - No chafing, not even inside that sacrificial sleeve. I also cut
the corners round and sandpaper the edges at the ends.

Do these things first and -then- talk about them. Til then you're just drinking yer own kool-aide

On the Mr Tuff

Using a tube is poss

The rig is 3 boards, outer 2 screwed tops higher...tube C. plus...aside middle boaRd also tube C . Use screws n clamp together...measure placement

A segment of rim is attached as a trough feeder.

Attach a guide...of ? .25×3...marking tube center

Inflate tube, clean CHOH, after palmolive
n carfully pull thru past guide marking tube center.

Deflate tube n try cutting down the middle with sharp stanley blade or use a rug knife from amazon also stanley

This was posted previously.

You should pull your finger out of your assholes n make one...chocho

On 2017-09-06 11:13, Doug Landau wrote:
On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 9:19:20 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 17:09, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 4:20:54 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg
wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall
punctures. Long story short I will definitely not
recommend CST Conquistare tires. Wore out in less
than 1200mi and then weakened which is just
unacceptable. So thumbs down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow
tires. They must be laid in with a wee overlap.
Will that overlap cause a 700c 25mm tire at 110psi
to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop every time
the overlap comes around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise
discarded) thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on
the inside and slide it over the real
thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have
discontinued selling thorn-resistant tubes with
good and most of all same thickness all around but
now the thickness tapers off towards the sidewalls.
That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I
had to re-order yesterday because those things are
essentially unfixable with those thin REMA
patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely
does not matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that
smugglers "inflate" their vehicle tires with some
sort of hardening sealant (Silicone? Construction
foam?) that makes the tires bullet-proof. What
material is it and how do they get it in there
thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of
thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make
their own mr tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because
the radius inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on
the rim side. I'll see when the new tube gets here next
week. There should be enough compliance in the rubber
so there won;t be any wrinkles. Hopefully. The othe
issue is that the smallest these tubes come is 700 x
23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a
another thick tube in there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember
the part about removing the bead, but that's obvious.
Mostly I remember the conclusion, made simply with no
effort to convince: "... and I don't get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of
old 27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27"
wheels. Some 27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll
try the Mr.Tuffy which should be here in a week. Until then the
MTB will be pressed into service despite an ailing BB. Carrying
a spritz of turbine oil along in case it starts screeching.

Mr tuffys have overlap problems and chafing problems and are not
always wide enuf Do the tire thing and don't worry about the
27-in-a-28, just take care to cut it so there is no gap left.
The tire it is going in is not going to expand more than
trivially, as it still has a bead. If you think there wull be
some expansion then cut the liner you make 1/8" too long, butt
the ends, and let there be a tiny bulge inward a few inches away,
which will flatten if you are right.


Cuttin the fat 27" tire tread seems like creating the perfect
tube-pinch opportunity.

What I'd with Mr.Tuffy liners on the road bike is to lay a sliver
of old tube between liner and tube. Should anything chafe it would
be that sacrificial part. On the MTB I have an regular tube sleeved
over the liner - No chafing, not even inside that sacrificial
sleeve. I also cut the corners round and sandpaper the edges at the
ends.

Do these things first and -then- talk about them. Til then you're
just drinking yer own kool-aide


I'll try the liner plus sacrificial tube chunk first because that has
proven to work on the MTB over two years. I was just concerned about
noticeable bump but according to another rider who wrote via email that
isn't a problem.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 9:20:12 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 23:22, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 05 Sep 2017 16:20:54 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-09-05 14:06, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 11:29:18 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-05 10:29, Doug Landau wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-08-31 17:38, Doug Landau wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2017 at 11:55:06 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
Yesterday I had another two (!) sidewall punctures. Long story
short I will definitely not recommend CST Conquistare tires.
Wore out in less than 1200mi and then weakened which is just
unacceptable. So thumbs down from me.

This brings up two questions:

1. The Mr.Tuffy orange liners for 700c narrow tires. They must
be laid in with a wee overlap. Will that overlap cause a 700c
25mm tire at 110psi to run bumpy? Like whop .. whop .. whop
every time the overlap comes around?

2. What about taking a second (otherwise discarded)
thorn-resistant tube, slit it open on the inside and slide it
over the real thorn-resistant as a 2nd layer?

The problem is that Kenda seems to have discontinued selling
thorn-resistant tubes with good and most of all same thickness
all around but now the thickness tapers off towards the
sidewalls. That's where they fail. Same for Sunlite which I had
to re-order yesterday because those things are essentially
unfixable with those thin REMA patches.

Any words of wisdom? As usual, weight absolutely does not
matter.

In case anyone knows: I read somewhere that smugglers "inflate"
their vehicle tires with some sort of hardening sealant
(Silicone? Construction foam?) that makes the tires
bullet-proof. What material is it and how do they get it in
there thoroughly enough? Would it be good for a couple of
thousand miles?

Those who are serious about not getting flats make their own mr
tuffys from old tires


How do you do the overlap? It has to be cut because the radius
inside is a smidgen smaller than normal.

I was thinking about making my own Mr.Tuffy from a 2nd
thorn-resistant tube that is slit open lengthwise on the rim side.
I'll see when the new tube gets here next week. There should be
enough compliance in the rubber so there won;t be any wrinkles.
Hopefully. The othe issue is that the smallest these tubes come is
700 x 23/25mm and even 23mm is a bit large if there is a another
thick tube in there.

Fraid I either did not ask or don't remember. I remember the part
about removing the bead, but that's obvious. Mostly I remember the
conclusion, made simply with no effort to convince: "... and I don't
get flats".

Check it out. This guy rides 28s, and makes liners out of old 27s, so there is no cutting or overlapping necessary.
http://forums.bicycletutor.com/thread-4387.html


Good idea, though I wouldn't know anyone who still uses 27" wheels. Some
27" tires are still sold on EBay. But first I'll try the Mr.Tuffy which
should be here in a week. Until then the MTB will be pressed into
service despite an ailing BB. Carrying a spritz of turbine oil along in
case it starts screeching.

https://www.biketiresdirect.com/sear...-tires?ppp=ALL


Amazing that there still is a market. Must be a lot of older guys like
us tooling around on their teenager bikes :-)

Now that is the stupidest thing I've heard in...
I ride a bike with 27" wheels, a beautiful cherry Fuji S12-S, and lemme tell you, 27" tires are $8.99 on sale, including Conti Gatorskins at REI, and brand still-in-plastic 27" wheels with bearings and skewers are $20-$30.

Riding 27" wheels chops your roadbike tire and wheel expenses in half.