Lance How can it happen

Sometimes, a dumbass like me doesn;t drink enough and bonks on a ride
or two, but how can this happen to Lance with all the coaches and
trainers? Mainly,

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

This is such a newbie mistake, I can;t believe it happened. Lance's
and CC's approach to cycling is so analytical........maybe a little
too much. Lastly, I have just about heard enough about power to
weight ratio BS -

You know he did say he made a mistake with hydration, so that can happen to
anyone. Besides the body is not alway consistant. He may have had a slight
infection or type of cold that may not have been evident...

"James Cagney" wrote in message
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Sometimes, a dumbass like me doesn;t drink enough and bonks on a ride
or two, but how can this happen to Lance with all the coaches and
trainers? Mainly,

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

This is such a newbie mistake, I can;t believe it happened. Lance's
and CC's approach to cycling is so analytical........maybe a little
too much. Lastly, I have just about heard enough about power to
weight ratio BS -

In article ,
(James Cagney) wrote:

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

And

3. He was the last rider on the course. All his teammates rode before
him and he didn't get any feedback about the heat and difficulty of the
course?

"James Cagney" wrote in message
...
Sometimes, a dumbass like me doesn;t drink enough and bonks on a ride
or two, but how can this happen to Lance with all the coaches and
trainers? Mainly,

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

This is such a newbie mistake, I can;t believe it happened. Lance's
and CC's approach to cycling is so analytical........maybe a little
too much. Lastly, I have just about heard enough about power to
weight ratio BS -

It is called "falling on the sword" and they want everyone to believe as you
are, that Chris screwed up and the mechanic screwed up with the brakes the
other day. The reason they want you to think that is so that the competition
thinks the problem is not with Lance and therefore can't be exploited.

In fact, let me tell you my theory about the 2001 stage to Alp d,Huez. I
think that Lance did feel like crap that day, but he did not let on when he
began to feel better. IOW, we always hear from Lance and Chris that Lance is
virtually unbreakable. It is not uncommon at all in pro distances to go
through physical problems like Lance described. A lot of times the person
suffering will feel better and have a good result. Petacchi had problems on
the stages that he won. Lemond complained that he felt bad the day he won
the World's Road Race title in '89. The difference is that Lance and Chris
spin everything the would lead any competitors to think he has no weaknesses
that can be exploited.

If Lance does not win this years race it will be interesting to see if CC's
coaching business continues to thrive the way it has during the last four
years. In the introduction of CC's new book, The Ultimate Ride, The
co-author of the book describes a conversation that he had when CC was his
coach. He asked CC, "Did Chris help them become great athletes, or did
their greatness elevate Chris's coaching reputation just by association?"
CC responded by asking if he realized that he had just questioned the
validity of his and all coaches careers.

I don't claim to have the answer, but I do know that CC has made a lot of
money because of his ties to LA, and the claim that they use a much more
scientific approach to cycling.

"James Cagney" wrote in message
...
Sometimes, a dumbass like me doesn;t drink enough and bonks on a ride
or two, but how can this happen to Lance with all the coaches and
trainers? Mainly,

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

This is such a newbie mistake, I can;t believe it happened. Lance's
and CC's approach to cycling is so analytical........maybe a little
too much. Lastly, I have just about heard enough about power to
weight ratio BS -

" Tim Mullin" wrote in message
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"J Jones" wrote in message
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I don't think there's
any question that their 'claims' are legitimate - they've elevated the
sport, and the science of training for it.

Just ask Greg Strock.

Allegations, all. And besides, even if they did dope him, does Strock carry
no responsibility in the matter?
Jeff

"J Jones" wrote in message
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Allegations, all. And besides, even if they did dope him, does Strock
carry
no responsibility in the matter?

What matter? What dope? You said Chris elevated the sport, and I simply
cited Strock as an example of another cyclist he coached. I didn't know
about any doping or anything. ****, dude....that sounds serious.

I guess that my post hit the wrong tone with you. I have spent lots of time
reviewing CC's program, and find no fault. I guess that I should have
focused more on the people who look at coaching by CTS as the magic bullet
to success. In my mind there are lots of "band wagon" people being trained
by CTS and I wonder if they will be headed to the next big thing if Lance
does not win this tour. I envision portable air conditioned rooms at the
start of every hot TT.

"J Jones" wrote in message
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"RWM" wrote in message
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If Lance does not win this years race it will be interesting to see if
CC's
coaching business continues to thrive the way it has during the last
four
years. In the introduction of CC's new book, The Ultimate Ride, The
co-author of the book describes a conversation that he had when CC was
his
coach. He asked CC, "Did Chris help them become great athletes, or did
their greatness elevate Chris's coaching reputation just by
association?"
CC responded by asking if he realized that he had just questioned the
validity of his and all coaches careers.

I don't claim to have the answer, but I do know that CC has made a lot
of
money because of his ties to LA, and the claim that they use a much more
scientific approach to cycling.

Chris has "made a lot of money" because he's coached a 4-time TDF winner
to
4 TDF wins - as well as a comeback from cancer. He's earned it, period.
As
to the 'claim' that they use a more scientific approach to cycling - if
you've read anything on the data they collect, how they use the data to
train, and the sheer $$ that's gone into the practice, I don't think
there's
any question that their 'claims' are legitimate - they've elevated the
sport, and the science of training for it.
Jeff


"James Cagney" wrote in message
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Sometimes, a dumbass like me doesn;t drink enough and bonks on a ride
or two, but how can this happen to Lance with all the coaches and
trainers? Mainly,

1. Ullrich warmed up in a cool room with air conditioning. WHy didn't
old Chris Carm. find this for Lance or suggest it?

2. WHy didn;t Lance drink enough before the stage? It was almost 100
degrees he should have been drinking non stop before the race. Between
Lance and Chris someone should have figured out the fluid intake
requirements.

This is such a newbie mistake, I can;t believe it happened. Lance's
and CC's approach to cycling is so analytical........maybe a little
too much. Lastly, I have just about heard enough about power to
weight ratio BS -