SPOKE LENGTH IN NIPPLE

datakoll wrote:
an oversimplification form an engineer ?
I call for truth in spoke calc and the engineer cries out for
continued obfucstaion?
A graphic is an educational tool not oly for the consumer but MO and
LBS staff unable to enter data into spoke clcs and ship correct
lengths.
THE ERD DOESN'T WORK! THE ERD USES 90% of available spoke threading
just to satisfy GOD ERD AND THE ERD ELITISTS.
seriously Jim, using up threading to satisfy a programable math model
is self defeating.

jim beam wrote:
fact: regardless of what your fears or opinions on this subject,
literally millions of wheels, over the course of 100 years, have been
built with this formula. with complete success. if you take nothing
else away from this conversation, let that fact be the one thing you can
accept.
for your future wheelbuilding endeavors, buy spokes with 3" of threading
and cut them to length yourself after building.

datakoll wrote:
threading weakenss spokes?

Maybe. But since the overwhelming bulk of breakage is at the head, what
does it matter? Threaded portion is strong enough.
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datakoll wrote:
THIS IS WHERE THE DUCK FALLS FROM THE CEILING !

You bet your life!
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Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

yeah and the Duck Sez: ERD and spoke threading leading to metal
fatigue for 1960-1980 metallurgy/manufacturing methods? That ERD would
eliminate this hypothetical weakness with full insertion up to total
thread use (for no otherwise good reason)

datakoll wrote:

yeah and the Duck Sez: ERD and spoke threading leading to metal
fatigue for 1960-1980 metallurgy/manufacturing methods? That ERD would
eliminate this hypothetical weakness with full insertion up to total
thread use (for no otherwise good reason)

the spoke nipple has to be threaded with the spokes slack as well as
tight. and accommodate bedding in. what is sufficient to be engaged
when slack needs to be adjusted out, and thus, threaded up the spoke nipple.

try building with spokes that are too short and see how you enjoy the
experience. or not.

datakoll aka gene daniels wrote:
...
THIS IS WHERE THE DUCK FALLS FROM THE CEILING !

Do bicycle helmets provide adequate protection against falling ducks?

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