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Old August 26th 08, 01:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? Thanks

Ed
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Old August 26th 08, 01:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Clive George
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"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message
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Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? Thanks


Do Spokey-dokeys get a longer run on them? Or do they get stuck in the more
acute angle?

cheers,
clive


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Old August 26th 08, 01:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Aug 26, 6:15*am, Ed Sullivan wrote:
Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? *Thanks

Ed


Nope. 'Perhaps' a little harsher ride since there are only 'pulling'
spokes on radial. Easier to lace.
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Old August 26th 08, 03:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Aug 26, 7:18*am, "Clive George" wrote:
"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message

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Dear Wheelheads,


Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? *Thanks


Do Spokey-dokeys get a longer run on them? Or do they get stuck in the more
acute angle?


Wiseguy. You know that with radial, there's a better chance that a
squirrel can make it all the way through before reaching the fork.
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Old August 26th 08, 08:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Aug 26, 9:15*am, landotter wrote:
On Aug 26, 7:18*am, "Clive George" wrote:

"Ed Sullivan" wrote in message


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Dear Wheelheads,


Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? *Thanks


Do Spokey-dokeys get a longer run on them? Or do they get stuck in the more
acute angle?


Wiseguy. You know that with radial, there's a better chance that a
squirrel can make it all the way through before reaching the fork.


Qi doesn't get confused or diluted.
If it were to take a wrong turn on the way to the ground
(for all Qi must be grounded) you could end up having
tacos for dinner, when you meant to have bacon slicers.

http://www.taiji-qigong.co.uk/Free_T...gua_qigong.htm
http://tinyurl.com/6aap9z
"they knew how movement affected the body and mind so that
the Qi or 'energy' would circulate at a balanced and constant
rate, thus bathing each internal organ in life-giving Qi"

In this analogy, the hub is the lower dan tian, with the rim
being the upper (recall how you are supposed to hold your
tongue during correct qigong). Spoke crossings "short
circuit" the Qi, causing an early return, and weakening.
This is easily demonstrated by how frequently the flanges
break on radial-laced hubs (real, ultimate power) vs. semi-
tangent (like a cat licking its anus: no power or grace).
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Old August 26th 08, 11:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Ed Sullivan wrote:

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel?


Disadvantage:

Radial spokes put hub flanges at higher stress than crossed spoking
because each spoke pulls outward on the smallest cross section of the
flange and have been known to burst that section releasing from one to
three spokes. With steel flanges it is probably safe to spoke that
way. Crossed spoking makes the spokes look roughly like pulling your
index fingers when linked to one another. The resultant radial force
is smaller, because only one spoke is stress cycled at a time.

If a spoke breaks, as they did often with poorer spokes, the broken
spoke tends to be retained in the wheel without lashing about.

Jobst Brandt
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Old August 26th 08, 11:37 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Michael Press
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Ed Sullivan wrote:

Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? Thanks


Advantage? Do not know.
Some hubs do not have sufficient flange to sustain radial lacing,
and the manufacturers of those hubs do not guarantee them for
radial lacing.

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Michael Press
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Old August 27th 08, 12:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 05:15:50 -0700 (PDT), Ed Sullivan
wrote:

Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel? Thanks



A tiny bit faster to "lace" up.
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Old August 27th 08, 04:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Ed Sullivan wrote:
Dear Wheelheads,

Any advantages, other than perhaps aesthetic, to a radially spoked
front wheel?


No.

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