Pulse Rate Monitor

On 23/03/2015 9:33 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:57:13 -0400, Duane
wrote:

On 23/03/2015 8:49 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B. Slocomb:
Any suggestions?

Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+".

If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie
pulse monitoring apps.


I think most current smart phones running an app like MapMyRide or
RideWithGPS or whatever will support ANT+ and HRMs.

The problem for me is that the display on the phone isn't usually
visible in sunlight. They do make these adapters now with typical cycle
computer displays that connect to your phone via blue tooth.
I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just
getting a lower end Garmin or similar.

I don't much use a GPS, other than occasionally when I get lost :-)
and I find that in sunlight my hand phones are nearly impossible to
read. I had a wrist watch type of pulse monitor some years ago that
worked well.

Then I guess the first question is why not use the one you were happy
with? Assuming you can't get that one, are you looking for a self
contained device or something that acts as a sensor and connects to a
phone? The second question is what do you consider cheap? You can get
the self contained ones for ~50 from amazon or ebay.


I use it mainly to keep myself slowed down - I tend to
get all big headed and get with it.... then ten miles further I
realize that I shouldn't have done that :-(



Yeah, pacing is something that takes time to learn. Keep at it and with
experience you should be ok. g

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:57:15 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 23/03/2015 8:49 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B. Slocomb:
Any suggestions?

Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+".

If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie
pulse monitoring apps.


I think most current smart phones running an app like MapMyRide or
RideWithGPS or whatever will support ANT+ and HRMs.

The problem for me is that the display on the phone isn't usually
visible in sunlight. They do make these adapters now with typical cycle
computer displays that connect to your phone via blue tooth.
I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just
getting a lower end Garmin or similar.


Garmin, smartphone? That is not the first brand/solution I am thinking of when it comes to HRM. Too complicated. Get something like this:

http://www.polar.com/nl/producten/ko...ng/fitness/FT1


Lou

On 23/03/2015 10:13 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:
On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:57:15 PM UTC+1, Duane wrote:
On 23/03/2015 8:49 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B. Slocomb:
Any suggestions?

Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+".

If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie
pulse monitoring apps.


I think most current smart phones running an app like MapMyRide or
RideWithGPS or whatever will support ANT+ and HRMs.

The problem for me is that the display on the phone isn't usually
visible in sunlight. They do make these adapters now with typical cycle
computer displays that connect to your phone via blue tooth.
I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just
getting a lower end Garmin or similar.


Garmin, smartphone? That is not the first brand/solution I am thinking of when it comes to HRM. Too complicated. Get something like this:

http://www.polar.com/nl/producten/ko...ng/fitness/FT1


Sure but the OP's main concern seems to be cost. 50 euros may or may
not be what he considers too expensive. Pete mentioned ANT and smart
phones so I was commenting on that.

If you already have a smart phone and an app (usually free) that does
ANT you can probably get a simple sensor - wrist or chest strap for a
lot less than 50 euros. I think the chest strap that I have costs ~35
canadian. It works with my Garmin or links with any ANT device like my
phone or the spinners at the gym etc.

saw a wrist model demoed a few days ago....this is over temporal lobes as I have a new S5.

The wearer alleged the stamp sized wrist band unit has GPS AND HR and pedometer with distance translator with /UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD/SIDELOAD time and weather.
if true that's impressive he said $100 ?

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saw a wrist model demoed a few days ago....this is over temporal lobes as I have a new S5.

The wearer alleged the stamp sized wrist band unit has GPS AND HR and pedometer with distance translator with /UPLOAD/DOWNLOAD/SIDELOAD time and weather.
if true that's impressive he said $100 ?

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the deal to reiterate....one tracks heart rate as an average, as an average for workouts, as an average for long distance, as an avrgae for hill climbing...develop a median understanding ding ding ding....

and what the heart rate is supposed to be the next morning when you expected to rise when your not working out.

If the HR is slower than normal with or normal without working out and does not quickly return to ormal then the routine suggests you cut back and take a rest, review the routine for mods, new nutrition, more sleeeep, stretching, new course ect.

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 6:27:21 AM UTC-7, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:49:07 -0400, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per John B. Slocomb:
Any suggestions?

Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+".

If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie
pulse monitoring apps.

Yes, there is that although I had thought more about a small, stylish,
wrist mounted device ;-)
--

Just don't get the one recommended by Lou, which is described in part as "Duidelijke hartslagweergave op een groot en goed afleesbaar display." (say that ten times fast!)

I find that the afleesbaar displays blow chunks when I'm trying to measure my hartslagweergave. Een Groot! Dutch language lesson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph_l7Pp_1mk

-- Jay Beattie.

HELLO JAY this is your monitor. The right ventricle is slowing 15% every hour.

http://goo.gl/fMoAON

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:05:44 -0400, Duane
wrote:

On 23/03/2015 9:33 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 08:57:13 -0400, Duane
wrote:

On 23/03/2015 8:49 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per John B. Slocomb:
Any suggestions?

Find out if you smartphone supports something called "ANT+".

If it does, consider getting just a chest band and one of the freebie
pulse monitoring apps.


I think most current smart phones running an app like MapMyRide or
RideWithGPS or whatever will support ANT+ and HRMs.

The problem for me is that the display on the phone isn't usually
visible in sunlight. They do make these adapters now with typical cycle
computer displays that connect to your phone via blue tooth.
I'm not sure though that after all that you aren't better off just
getting a lower end Garmin or similar.

I don't much use a GPS, other than occasionally when I get lost :-)
and I find that in sunlight my hand phones are nearly impossible to
read. I had a wrist watch type of pulse monitor some years ago that
worked well.

Then I guess the first question is why not use the one you were happy
with? Assuming you can't get that one, are you looking for a self
contained device or something that acts as a sensor and connects to a
phone? The second question is what do you consider cheap? You can get
the self contained ones for ~50 from amazon or ebay.


I intend to :-) My original inquiry was intended to get (hopefully)
some suggestions for specific makes and model pulse monitors.

As I thought I'd explained sourcing from America can be a trial. If
the goods are shipped by mail it is usually not a problem, but a great
many companies seem to ship only via FedEx, or other shipping
companies, and that can be a problem.

I use it mainly to keep myself slowed down - I tend to
get all big headed and get with it.... then ten miles further I
realize that I shouldn't have done that :-(



Yeah, pacing is something that takes time to learn. Keep at it and with
experience you should be ok. g

Geeze, I've been at it for 20 years, or so. Will I ever learn :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:12:07 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:

John B. Slocomb considered Mon, 23 Mar 2015
10:19:02 +0700 the perfect time to write:


I would like to use a pulse rate monitor when riding. But which one.

I can calculate pulse rate ranges, maximum rate, etc., and want
something that primarily tells me what my current pulse is. If it has
a second line that tells me what range I'm in, fine, it is not a
problem, nor do I care if it records hours of riding. I'm mainly
interested in "what I'm doing right NOW" and when I stop "how quick
does my pulse return to normal"?

These monitors are not especially common here and mail order from
America is usually not the best method of procurement due to shipping,
import duties and so on. I did find a Garmin shop that has several
models - a Forerunner (three models) and a VIVOfit. I'm assuming, at
the moment, that either choice would include added cost for the chest
band.

Any suggestions?

For decent reliability at a reasonable price, I'd recommend Polar
every time, and although they don't seem to have an agent in Thailand,
some shops seem to sell them (there's one in Phuket that I've seen
recommended).
So we might need to know which countries is it easiest for you to deal
with and how important backup service is - the chest straps usually
have an embedded battery that needs to be changed (only every few
years) by a service centre - Singapore has Polar agents, and they
might be your closest.

Of course, there may be "no-name" HRMs that will do what you want for
less than a base model Polar, but quality would be far more of a
gamble.

Yup, I had a Polar years ago. I stopped using it when the elastic in
the chest strap wore out. When I went back to the place I bought it
(15 years later) they weren't there :-(

I just got back from five days in Singapore but was so busy while I
was there that I never gave any thought to HRM's. Although, I might
add, costs in Singapore have risen to the point that it is no longer
"the place to go to buy stuff".

Give me a reference to the Phuket place, if you have it, as I'll go
down there in a week or so.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 5:15:33 PM UTC-7, wrote:
HELLO JAY this is your monitor. The right ventricle is slowing 15% every hour.

http://goo.gl/fMoAON

I had an early Polar monitor that I used about five times, and then it died.. This was back in the early 90s. I didn't miss it and was never one for scientific training. I don't need technology to tell me how bad I suck.

My formula for riding within my limits: ride with slow people. Otherwise, I'll chase -- regardless of what my heart is doing. I chased my brother up a hill (or tried) while basically dying of a pulmonary (saddle) embolism (from a leg clot after a fracture repair). I literally couldn't breathe, but I still made it home at about 1/4 speed, and ultimately to the cardiac ward. That was the only time my brother beat me to the top of a hill. BTW, I chalk-up my survival to good heart heath from riding.

Now that I'm old and decrepit, I still chase, but more like an old dog with a short attention span, but that still gets my heart going.

-- Jay Beattie.