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tires with Kevlar
I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the
Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother ride. Pam |
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pam_in_sc wrote: I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother ride. I have a pair of those on my Fuji Roubaix Pro, that size. Only about 1000 miles on them, but no flats, reasonable wear, fast enough for me. YMMV. RichC |
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pam_in_sc wrote:
: I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the : Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended : the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? : : I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of : rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother : ride. : I was having a lot of flats early last year on the stock tires (with my tuffy tube liner, too). After about 800 miles, I bought some kevlar tires from performance.com and dropped the liner. I haven't had a flat in 2000 miles. We'll see how it goes... |
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Roger Zoul writes:
I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother ride. I was having a lot of flats early last year on the stock tires (with my Tuffy tube liner, too). After about 800 miles, I bought some Kevlar tires from performance.com and dropped the liner. I haven't had a flat in 2000 miles. We'll see how it goes... What caused all these flats and how did you repair them. Your description makes the experience sound so cryptic. What was the tire liner doing, why don't you use it now and what did Kevlar do that the former tires did not? Do the former tires have many cuts in the tread and do the new ones not have any? Sharp objects must first go through tread rubber to discover a tire liner or Kevlar band in the casing. Please cast some light on this so I can understand the effects. |
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On Tue, 17 May 2005 15:19:21 -0400, pam_in_sc
wrote: I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother ride. Pam Hi Pam, I've been running the Conti Ultra Gatorskins on both my bikes. 27x11/4 on the one and 700x25 on the LeMond. I have 2500 miles on the LeMond's rear tire and the tire is in good shape. I have had no flats on any of the Gatorskins. I really like them, they are a decent performer and I like the ride. I usually run 100-110psi. Life is Good! Jeff |
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Roger Zoul wrote:
pam_in_sc wrote: : I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the : Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended : the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? : : I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of : rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother : ride. : I was having a lot of flats early last year on the stock tires (with my tuffy tube liner, too). After about 800 miles, I bought some kevlar tires from performance.com and dropped the liner. I haven't had a flat in 2000 miles. We'll see how it goes... I suppose this response is more for Mr. Brandt than anyone else. It's interesting you had flats with your Tuffy tire liners. I've never had a flat with the Mr. Tuffys which have outlived four pairs of tires, ranging from 700x20 to 700x28. The only problem I had was improper installation, where I folded over the tail of the liners which rubbed a weak spot into the tube until it popped. Nothing seems to penetrate the Tuffys. I've have mostly glass framents, but the most impressive was a thumbtack stuck in the tire that didn't go through the Tuffys. Also, my experience with the Performance brand kevlar tires was good, but they did not perform as well as the Tuffys with regular tires. But how can you say no to a $9.99 sale for durable tires? The kevlars were actually very durable and repelled glass fragments and thorns where normal tires would have flatted. However, I rode through fresh road-sealing tar (I was squeezed between two cars and could not go around it), and realized too late that tar-coated shards of glass were sticking to my tires. One can't expect even something like the touted Gatorskins to survive that. The glass cut through the belt and tube. The kevlar tires didn't cut as easily as normal tires. This made digging out the glass actually a little difficult, and many holes looked clean but still had shards deep inside. So, back to the Tuffys. Now tire maintenance consists of digging out glass fragments which stopped right at the liner. In my opinion, the rolling resistance of the kevlar tires and the Tuffys are both noticeably greater and responsiveness noticeably less than mid-range quality tires, and their performance is not much different from one another. Even though it's noticeable, to me, a commmuter and weekend recreationalist, it's minor. -C |
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Collin writes:
In my opinion, the rolling resistance of the kevlar tires and the Tuffys are both noticeably greater and responsiveness noticeably less than mid-range quality tires, and their performance is not much different from one another. Even though it's noticeable, to me, a commmuter and weekend recreationalist, it's minor. What does "responsiveness" mean in this context? |
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pam_in_sc said the following on 18/5/2005 3:19:
I was inspired by a posting here about good experience with the Bontrager Race Lite Hardcase. I asked at my LBS, which recommended the Continental Ultra GatorSkin. Is that as good a tire? Yes, definitely. I had mine (also 700x25s) on for about 8000km now w/o flats. The rear one is getting somewhat worn (what little tread there is is almost gone), so I guess in another 2000km I will move the front tire (which still looks very good) to the rear and mount a new front. I have to wait for them to be ordered, as I want 700x25s. A lot of rough roads here, and as well as fewer flats I would like a smoother ride. Pam |
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