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On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 8:48:46 PM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote:
John B. writes:

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 19:15:20 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

" writes:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:07:16 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
The really bad thing about this rather useless lockdown is that it
is a terrible strain on all of the small businesses that are all
hanging on for dear life.



Useless? We have a world wide virus that kills 1-2% of the people
that contract it. The virus is passed from person to person by
contact. Touching, breathing on each other. So you think its useless
to keep people separated as much as possible so they cannot infect
each other.

Now I agree that the 1-2% death rate from Covid-19 is not extreme.
Its somewhat minor. Except to the dead people. Its 100% death rate
for them.
21,000+ dead Americans. 112,000+ dead world wide. So what. Who
cares. They were going to die anyway. They're old. Weak. Right?

It's really hard to calculate the death rate for those contracting the
disease at this point, because of the scarcity of tests, but that 1-2%
is probably almost an order of magnitude too high. Not to say that we
should or should not lock down.

Actually the figures are that, to date (April 12, 2020, 22:59 GMT),
there have been 1,849,666 diagnosed as having the virus, of which
422,565 have recovered and 114,064 have died and 1,313,037 are still
undergoing treatment.

As there is no method of determining the outcome of those currently
undergoing treatment the only definite numbers are the 536,629 in
which the disease has been terminated. Using those numbers some
422,565 have recovered (79%) and 114,064 have died (21%).

On a world population basis 237/1 million have been diagnosed with the
disease and 14.6/1 million have died.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

There are almost certainly many cases that have not been diagnosed, some
of which have not even felt sick. They may have, however, passed the
virus along.

80% have no or very light symptoms. Only the very 20% with the poorest health conditions are in some danger of this 20% these are the one's getting tested and becoming "confirmed". And only 1-3% of this group are dying.

Not to say that he loss of death isn't a serious matter.

More importantly, this is such a very mild disease that it appears that 75% of the population's immune system prevents any infection to begin with and these people test negative.

People like Fauci are treating this group as "future infectees" when, while it is possible that they will have declining health in the future, by that time the covid-19 will be so scarce in the population that they should have no problems.

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 23:48:43 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

John B. writes:

On Sun, 12 Apr 2020 19:15:20 -0400, Radey Shouman
wrote:

" writes:

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 12:07:16 PM UTC-5, Tom Kunich wrote:
The really bad thing about this rather useless lockdown is that it
is a terrible strain on all of the small businesses that are all
hanging on for dear life.



Useless? We have a world wide virus that kills 1-2% of the people
that contract it. The virus is passed from person to person by
contact. Touching, breathing on each other. So you think its useless
to keep people separated as much as possible so they cannot infect
each other.

Now I agree that the 1-2% death rate from Covid-19 is not extreme.
Its somewhat minor. Except to the dead people. Its 100% death rate
for them.
21,000+ dead Americans. 112,000+ dead world wide. So what. Who
cares. They were going to die anyway. They're old. Weak. Right?

It's really hard to calculate the death rate for those contracting the
disease at this point, because of the scarcity of tests, but that 1-2%
is probably almost an order of magnitude too high. Not to say that we
should or should not lock down.

Actually the figures are that, to date (April 12, 2020, 22:59 GMT),
there have been 1,849,666 diagnosed as having the virus, of which
422,565 have recovered and 114,064 have died and 1,313,037 are still
undergoing treatment.

As there is no method of determining the outcome of those currently
undergoing treatment the only definite numbers are the 536,629 in
which the disease has been terminated. Using those numbers some
422,565 have recovered (79%) and 114,064 have died (21%).

On a world population basis 237/1 million have been diagnosed with the
disease and 14.6/1 million have died.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

There are almost certainly many cases that have not been diagnosed, some
of which have not even felt sick. They may have, however, passed the
virus along.

Certainly, which is why Thailand, for example, confines anyone who
has, or may have, been exposed to a 14 day quarantine.
--
cheers,

John B.