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Saddle height vs. bar height
What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to
bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Cheers, Steve -- The reply-to email address is a spam trap. Email steve 'at' shodgson 'dot' org 'dot' uk |
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On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:58:28 +0100, Steve Hodgson
wrote: What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Cheers, Steve On my tourer, bars are about 2" lower than saddle, on road bike some 4-5" - on both, saddle nose points slightly downwards to accomodate gonads (can I say that here ?) Tony |
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in message et, Steve
Hodgson ') wrote: What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Not much. Your saddle should normally be quite a bit higher than your bars for optimum performance - I have the saddle about 50mm higher than the bars on all my bikes. If you're doing stunty jumpy stuff or lunatic downhilling you probably want the saddle lower than the bars, but you won't get back up the hill that way. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; ... exposing the violence incoherent in the system... |
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Steve Hodgson wrote in
al.net: What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Yes, air resistance is much more of an issue for a roadie so they will generally have the bars very low, much lower than the seat. I guess mountain bikers'll put them where they have most control over steering and balance? For normal everyday cyclists there isn't really a rule and bar height varies with type of bike, fashion and individual rider comfort - there's no 'should', tho level or slightly higher is normally regarded as more 'relaxed' than below. |
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Tony wrote:
(can I say that here ?) I don't think anyone has ever expressed an objection to using it but if you are worried you could always write it as "t**t" -- Tony "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't" Anon |
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in message , Tony
') wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 17:58:28 +0100, Steve Hodgson wrote: What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? On my tourer, bars are about 2" lower than saddle, on road bike some 4-5" - on both, saddle nose points slightly downwards to accomodate gonads (can I say that here ?) Interestingly after I fitted tribars to the Dolan I found I needed to raise the saddle a further 2cm and, for the reason you state, tilt the saddle down. Always before I've had my saddle horizontal and had assumed that a tilted saddle would be uncomfortable but it Just Works[TM]. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ;; When your hammer is C++, everything begins to look like a thumb. |
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in message 63, Mark
Thompson ') wrote: Steve Hodgson wrote in al.net: What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Yes, air resistance is much more of an issue for a roadie so they will generally have the bars very low, much lower than the seat. I guess mountain bikers'll put them where they have most control over steering and balance? It's just the same issue. Look at this photo: URL:http://www.stewartry-wheelers.org/wheelers/pictures/gareth_sm.jpg If you want to go fast on a mountain bike, you'll have the seat high and the bars low. Gareth, in that photo, is the fastest cross country cyclist in Scotland this year by some margin. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ IMHO, there aren't enough committed Christians, but that's care in the community for you. -- Ben Evans |
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Steve Hodgson wrote:
What is current best thinking on where saddle height should be in relation to bar height. I was discussing this with some fellow cyclists today and they maintained that they had to be the same height. My view was that for mountain bikes the bar was usually a little lower than the seat. It was a fairly trivial debate! What is the modern thinking on this issue and is there a distinction between road bikes and mountain bikes? Keen riders of both tend to have the bars lower than saddle, some by just a few mm, some a good few inches. Whatever, saddle height should be set for what's best for pedalling and arse-comfort, then bar height set after that for whatever provides the desired comfort, aerodynamics or handling. Some of the riders who don't mind speed being compromised will have the bars as high or higher than the saddle. Reach is just as important as height, though. ~PB |
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Simon Brooke wrote: It's just the same issue. Look at this photo: URL:http://www.stewartry-wheelers.org/wheelers/pictures/gareth_sm.jpg If that's your '10' course then serious kudos for getting anywhere near 30 mins.. ...d ;-) |
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BikeFit just recommended that this average proportioned male of 173cm
male have a drop of 8 cm for "sport/road riding". Back in realityville, I tend to have the bars about level to 4cm lower (10 cm lower on the track bike but the frame is small). I think comfort is the driver, my wife has her bars about 8cm higher, but she has short arms. Saddle is absolutely level, measured by spirit level. For aerobars one may tilt down placing more weight on the arms which are better supported than without bars. Sore wrists will ensue otherwise. regards daren -- remove outer garment for reply |
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