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Old August 8th 07, 09:45 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
Arthur Brain
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By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.

A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into 77-year-old
James Gould as he crossed Beach Rd at Mentone on a green signal on
August 26 last year.

The Hell Ride is an informal Saturday morning ride from Black Rock to
Mt Eliza and back.


Defence lawyer Michael Sharpley said Raisin-Shaw found himself in the
middle of a pack, some who yelled "rolling, rolling" to indicate their
intention to run the red light.

"One must not underestimate group dynamics and group pressure," Mr
Sharpley said.

At an inquest into Mr Gould's death, coroner Graeme Johnstone said the
Hell Ride was not suitable for suburban streets or main roads. He
highlighted a police submission which said the Hell Ride had
"degenerated into a disorganised race''.

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Old August 8th 07, 09:56 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
Marc
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.

A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into 77-year-old
James Gould as he crossed Beach Rd at Mentone on a green signal on
August 26 last year.

The Hell Ride is an informal Saturday morning ride from Black Rock to



If "A pack of cyclists taking part in a Hell Ride slammed into" why
was only one charged?

Usual redtop rubbish?
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Old August 8th 07, 10:08 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
Tony Raven[_3_]
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Arthur Brain wrote:

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


What has this got to do with uk.rec.cycling unless Arfur Brain is doing
a lame attempt at a troll?

Tony
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Old August 8th 07, 10:21 AM posted to aus.politics,uk.rec.cycling,rec.bicycles.soc,soc.culture.australian,aus.legal
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

On Aug 8, 10:45 am, Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


I wonder just how many threads could be started on here each day about
speeding, red-light running, drunken, drugged, mobile phone using and
other wise anti-social drivers who have killed someone and escaped
with fine if people started scanning the world's media for examples?




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Old August 8th 07, 10:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Matt B
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

Howard wrote:
On Aug 8, 10:45 am, Arthur Brain wrote:
By Emily Power

August 08, 2007 02:39pm
Article from: Herald Sun

A MAGISTRATE who today fined a cyclist who ran a red light in an
incident that killed an elderly pedestrian admitted it was a
"pathetic" penalty.

William-Raisin Shaw, 30, of St Kilda, pleaded guilty in Melbourne
Magistrates Court to a charge of failing to stop at a red light.


I wonder just how many threads could be started on here each day about
speeding, red-light running, drunken, drugged, mobile phone using and
other wise anti-social drivers who have killed someone and escaped
with fine if people started scanning the world's media for examples?


Not on here - this is uk.rec.CYCLING. Try uk.rec.driving if /that/ is
your interest.

As a cyclist you should welcome reports, good and bad, of cycling news.
We can surely all benefit from hearing the experiences of others,
and that story conveys an important point.

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Old August 8th 07, 10:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Dave Larrington
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[x-posted twonkery removed]

In ,
Tony Raven tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:

What has this got to do with uk.rec.cycling unless Arfur Brain is
doing a lame attempt at a troll?



I think he's trying to tell World+Dog that this is indeed all he has
upstairs.

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Old August 8th 07, 10:52 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Matt B wrote:

that story conveys an important point.


The point being don't travel to Australia , take part in "hell ride"
and don't knock over any 77 year olds.

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Old August 8th 07, 10:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Lycra-clad cycling psychos kill 77-year-old

$ Australian 215 = £91.0298

Per life, this is more than double the amount a UK driver was fined
for killing four cyclists.


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Old August 8th 07, 11:01 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 8 Aug, 10:52, soup wrote:
Matt B wrote:
that story conveys an important point.


The point being don't travel to Australia


Australia is indeed 2nd most dangerous place in world in terms of
number of UK toursits killed (Grauniad Aug 3rd).

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Old August 8th 07, 11:31 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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spindrift wrote:
$ Australian 215 = £91.0298

Per life, this is more than double the amount a UK driver was fined
for killing four cyclists.


Which one was that then - remember you said "for killing four cyclists",
so the conviction must have been for: murder, manslaughter, causing
death by..., or similar.

Please don't attempt to suggest that fines for technical victimless
motoring offences discovered when investigating a fatal crash are or
should be related to any deaths which resulted from /other/ causes.

--
Matt B
 




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