green paint failure

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 9:53:25 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

Dang, without dipping into the paint color controversy, was that second bike found in a time capsule -- or is that just an old picture? Except for a worn saddle, that's pristine -- what, late '70s early '80s? It almost makes me want one . . . but not quite. I would go back in time and get a bike like that so long as my knees, heart and lungs went back in time, too.

-- Jay Beattie.

Sign me up for that programme too, where you get new knees, heart and lungs (and I wouldn't mind the eyes with which I passed the pilot's license medical) as long as you take a retrobike.

Andre Jute
Me Luddite

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 9:22:05 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/19/2016 1:34 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:15:13 -0700 (PDT), DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
wrote:

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:02:49 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

IS THERE A TEST ?

No, but you fail anyway.
Nothing of value has ever been written on one line.

Considering the cost of installing a bicycle lane, I would think that
US currency green would be more appropriate.
https://www.google.com/search?q=miniature+golf+putting+green&tbm=isch
Notice the similarity between the color and shape of the miniature
golf putting green to that of the bicycle lane. If it's not a
coincidence, it must be a conspiracy.

My choice of color for the bicycle lane would be Bianci celeste
(vomit) green in a dazzle camouflage pattern. The induced nausea
should make everyone slow down. The indeterminate lane position
should make everyone drive more carefully:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dazzle+camouflage&tbm=isch
Where psychology meets the road...


I have always liked Celeste bikes, since my youth, long
before selling Bianchis. If you want people to avoid
something I'd try that awful Legnano 'verde guano':

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...2/DSCF6185.JPG

nice bikes, but an all time ugly color IMHO.

Agreed, though Gazelle with their third series Toulouse really screwed the pooch with a brown straight off a diseased slurry farm. https://duckduckgo.com/? q=Gazelle+Toulouse&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.onbikex.de%2Fgetfile.ashx%3Fbikid%3D13345%26 newwidth%3D600%26newheight%3D600
You can't follow the link beyond this, because that year the Toulouse was a disastrous failure because of the color, so everyone pretends it never happened. If you want to see what the Toulouse looked like the previous year, in restrained upmarket sporting colors, try
http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGgazelletoulouse.html

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andre Jute
Showroom fashion isn't everything, even in bicycles

Humble apologies for a link that doesn't work, the first of mine below. It doesn't appear capable of fixing either, because we're dealing with a ghost picture. -- AJ

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 12:54:44 AM UTC+1, Andre Jute wrote:
On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 9:22:05 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/19/2016 1:34 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:15:13 -0700 (PDT), DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
wrote:

On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 12:02:49 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

IS THERE A TEST ?

No, but you fail anyway.
Nothing of value has ever been written on one line.

Considering the cost of installing a bicycle lane, I would think that
US currency green would be more appropriate.
https://www.google.com/search?q=miniature+golf+putting+green&tbm=isch
Notice the similarity between the color and shape of the miniature
golf putting green to that of the bicycle lane. If it's not a
coincidence, it must be a conspiracy.

My choice of color for the bicycle lane would be Bianci celeste
(vomit) green in a dazzle camouflage pattern. The induced nausea
should make everyone slow down. The indeterminate lane position
should make everyone drive more carefully:
https://www.google.com/search?q=dazzle+camouflage&tbm=isch
Where psychology meets the road...


I have always liked Celeste bikes, since my youth, long
before selling Bianchis. If you want people to avoid
something I'd try that awful Legnano 'verde guano':

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n...2/DSCF6185.JPG

nice bikes, but an all time ugly color IMHO.

Agreed, though Gazelle with their third series Toulouse really screwed the pooch with a brown straight off a diseased slurry farm. https://duckduckgo.com/? q=Gazelle+Toulouse&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.onbikex.de%2Fgetfile.ashx%3Fbikid%3D13345%26 newwidth%3D600%26newheight%3D600
You can't follow the link beyond this, because that year the Toulouse was a disastrous failure because of the color, so everyone pretends it never happened. If you want to see what the Toulouse looked like the previous year, in restrained upmarket sporting colors, try
http://coolmainpress.com/BICYCLINGgazelletoulouse.html

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andre Jute
Showroom fashion isn't everything, even in bicycles

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(
--
cheers,

John B.

and now the camo photo of the sub out to dea...

THIS IS ITALY ? DESIGN CENTRAL with Vomit Green as a standard bearer .... vomit green Ferrari Red. French Racong Blue ...

Wierd Dude wierd.

There are Bianchi here but not in vomit green

n not Santa Cruz either I'd wager

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:37:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(

Yep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Standard_595
There are 650 colors available. Some charts include the Federal
agency that has staked its claim on one specific color number. Where
State and local specifications call for a specific color, it will be
the number from FED-STD-595C.

Incidentally, a friend is in the business of selling FED-STD-595C
color chips and documents to builders and contractors that need to
match their paint to 595C colors.
http://www.estore.fed-std-595.com/

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 23:00:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:37:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(

Yep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Standard_595
There are 650 colors available. Some charts include the Federal
agency that has staked its claim on one specific color number. Where
State and local specifications call for a specific color, it will be
the number from FED-STD-595C.

Incidentally, a friend is in the business of selling FED-STD-595C
color chips and documents to builders and contractors that need to
match their paint to 595C colors.
http://www.estore.fed-std-595.com/

Well, there out go. In spite of Jorge's complaints here is the U.S.
Government actually creating a new business opportunity.
(Your tax dollar at work)
--
cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:00:57 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:37:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(

Yep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Standard_595
There are 650 colors available. Some charts include the Federal
agency that has staked its claim on one specific color number. Where
State and local specifications call for a specific color, it will be
the number from FED-STD-595C.

Incidentally, a friend is in the business of selling FED-STD-595C
color chips and documents to builders and contractors that need to
match their paint to 595C colors.
http://www.estore.fed-std-595.com/

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

my cheap 1620's color chip is not up to this

https://goo.gl/KwAuvn

what is the runner for color Lieb ? max gamers so tosee the blood run out of Ronan's XXXXXXX ?

On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 8:37:27 AM UTC-4, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:00:57 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:37:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(

Yep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Standard_595
There are 650 colors available. Some charts include the Federal
agency that has staked its claim on one specific color number. Where
State and local specifications call for a specific color, it will be
the number from FED-STD-595C.

Incidentally, a friend is in the business of selling FED-STD-595C
color chips and documents to builders and contractors that need to
match their paint to 595C colors.
http://www.estore.fed-std-595.com/

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

my cheap 1620's color chip is not up to this

https://goo.gl/KwAuvn

what is the runner for color Lieb ? max gamers so tosee the blood run out of Ronan's XXXXXXX ?

https://goo.gl/ifn2jw


is there a screen saver with all colors ?

On 8/20/2016 7:43 AM, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 8:37:27 AM UTC-4, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
On Saturday, August 20, 2016 at 2:00:57 AM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2016 08:37:53 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 09:02:56 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:24:45 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...817-story.html

Chicago didn't use the right shade of green paint probably.

I think I see the problem. Chicago marks their bike lanes with a
solid line of green paint. In the Peoples Republic of Santa Cruz CA,
we use striped paint, which is cheaper. It also doesn't look like a
miniature golf green, which might confuse Chicago drivers.
http://www.cityofsantacruz.com/Home/Components/News/News/1783/835

Surely there must be Federal Regulations that prevent the use of
improper colors to denote safety zones. After all the health and
welfare people have rules and regulation for everything else. Have
they overlooked the bicycle world :-(

Yep:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Standard_595
There are 650 colors available. Some charts include the Federal
agency that has staked its claim on one specific color number. Where
State and local specifications call for a specific color, it will be
the number from FED-STD-595C.

Incidentally, a friend is in the business of selling FED-STD-595C
color chips and documents to builders and contractors that need to
match their paint to 595C colors.
http://www.estore.fed-std-595.com/

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

my cheap 1620's color chip is not up to this

https://goo.gl/KwAuvn

what is the runner for color Lieb ? max gamers so tosee the blood run out of Ronan's XXXXXXX ?

https://goo.gl/ifn2jw


is there a screen saver with all colors ?


An excellent subject,"what is a color?"

Yesterday I heard someone on the radio state
matter-of-factly "a rainbow has seven colors". Uh, not so
much. It's a spectrum, even extending out on both ends
beyond human perception.

Regarding 'official color charts', who decides what is a
color match to an official color chip? If I add a
homeopathic level of black into a fifty gallon drum of
white, is it white or off-white? At what level is it not a
match?

(I do color matches regularly and even when customers are
completely happy I can often see variance of hue or in the
case of metallics, of depth or grain.)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971