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Hello,
Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? Cullen |
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Tom Sherman schrieb:
aka Cullen Carter wrote: Hello, Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? Which government - Usenet does not have national boundaries? In the US it is a possibility, In Germany, intrusions into fundamental rights need to be intended to further a legitimate state interest and be necessary, suitable and proportionate. So, here it is not a possibility, unless Schäuble's way of interpreting the Basic Law becomes generally accepted. |
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On Apr 20, 8:14 am, " wrote:
Hello, Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? Do you mean license bicycle 'operators' (i.e., riders), bicycles themselves, or both? In any case, there are two reasons this could happen: 1) to create another revenue stream 2) to gain more control Could there come a day when pedestrians are 'licensed', too? |
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" writes: Hello, Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? The City of Vancouver has at various times pitched bicycle licensing programs, ostensibly to render stolen bikes more recoverable. The expense of running such programs simply isn't worth it. A civic budget is better applied to filling potholes and keeping the fire hydrants working. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes
the way they do with automobiles? =v= It would a a huge waste of money for no actual benefit. Consider that China has more bike commuters than other nation, and also one of the world's most authoritarian regimes, yet somehow muddles through without bike licenses. If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? =v= Nothing rational. Occasionally you get opinionators who scream for it, based on the notion the it would make bikers obey the law better, but that's based on the nonsensical premise that licensed motorists are somehow more in compliance with the law. =v= Occasionally you get police who find freedom of mobility an affront to the police state powers they'd like to have, calling for bike licenses as an excuse to hassle nonconformists. _Jym_ |
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Tom Keats wrote:
In article , " writes: Hello, Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? The City of Vancouver has at various times pitched bicycle licensing programs, ostensibly to render stolen bikes more recoverable. The expense of running such programs simply isn't worth it. A civic budget is better applied to filling potholes and keeping the fire hydrants working. cheers, Tom Back in the 70s (and maybe 80s?) the City of Winnipeg also licensed bikes for similar reasons. It was not mandatory, AFAICR. It didn't seem to be particularly effective. If you want something like that to recover the cost of operation (forget adding to the city's bottom line), you're almost certainly looking at $40 or $50 minimum, maybe more. If you're plonking $200 to $300 for a bike for the kid, a $50 licensing fee is huge. I think bike licensing would be a very tough sell. |
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Jym Dyer writes: Do you guys think the government will, someday, license bikes the way they do with automobiles? =v= It would a a huge waste of money for no actual benefit. Consider that China has more bike commuters than other nation, and also one of the world's most authoritarian regimes, yet somehow muddles through without bike licenses. If so, what do you think thier reasons would be? =v= Nothing rational. Occasionally you get opinionators who scream for it, based on the notion the it would make bikers obey the law better, but that's based on the nonsensical premise that licensed motorists are somehow more in compliance with the law. =v= Occasionally you get police who find freedom of mobility an affront to the police state powers they'd like to have, calling for bike licenses as an excuse to hassle nonconformists. I figure it works like this: somebody -- maybe a public official, or somebody who has a public offical or two in his pocket, complains about those pesky cyclists. So City Council has to be seen to do something about it. They come-up with that oh so original idea of licensing bikes. Then the furor/tempest-in-a-teapot dies down, and life temporarily returns to normal. Kind of like the placid intervals between earthquakes. Of all the things that push my political buttons, the notion that bike riders should have to pay a fee just to go anywhere is the hottest. The people who promote such ideas are just mean-spirited meanies. As my mom would have said: "They should have to live with themselves." cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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(Tom Keats) wrote: The people who promote such ideas are just mean-spirited meanies. OT, but I find it amusing how, amidst all the intensely cruel and vulgar insults in circulation on the Internet, they are the the simplest and most childlike ones that sound the most incisive of them all. Anyway, I agree entirely. -- Mark Shroyer, http://markshroyer.com/contact/ I have joined others in blocking Google Groups due to excessive spam. If you want more people to see your posts, you should use another means of posting to Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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