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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote:
Paul Berg wrote: ... The cyclists, 25-year-old Ben Ramsdell and 41-year-old Timothy Mastne, were taken to OHSU. Their injuries were not life-threatening. Neither cyclist was wearing a helmet. Why is h*lm*t non-use always reported, when a foam bicycle hat provides little more than bump and scrape protection? They seem effective in reducing serious head injuries by up to 85%. http://tinyurl.com/yqk6xl You get hit by a Lincoln Navigator doing 35 mph, you're in a world of ****, bike helmet or no bike helmet. Hell, at that speed, you're in a world of **** even with a motorcycle helmet. For the more typical low speed accidents and collisions, bike helmets are useful though no panacea. Peace and justice, |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
Who the hell was stupid and kicked his truck and WHY?
Somebody apparently did something stupid to cause something a lot more stupid. That was jackass and entirely preventable. No real sympathy for any kickers. |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
Bill Shatzer wrote:
Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman wrote: Paul Berg wrote: ... The cyclists, 25-year-old Ben Ramsdell and 41-year-old Timothy Mastne, were taken to OHSU. Their injuries were not life-threatening. Neither cyclist was wearing a helmet. Why is h*lm*t non-use always reported, when a foam bicycle hat provides little more than bump and scrape protection? They seem effective in reducing serious head injuries by up to 85%. http://tinyurl.com/yqk6xl Thompson, Rivara, Thompson has been discredited for a long time, unless one believes that bicycle h*lm*ts reduce 85% of NON-HEAD injuries also. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia BEER IS FOOD -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
On Aug 18, 12:26 pm, "Bjorn Berg f/Fergie Berg and All the Ships at S"
wrote: Who the hell was stupid and kicked his truck and WHY? Somebody apparently did something stupid to cause something a lot more stupid. That was jackass and entirely preventable. No real sympathy for any kickers. What is more, if you have enough time and room to kick a truck, you need to back off and learn to flow with traffic better or pay attention at corners. Damaging property like that might be criminal mischief at the least. Bicyclists not only don't mess with a 3000 lb motor vehicle, they have the common sense not to be trolled by Paul Berg and the spam binary images that must fill about screen worth of your monitors and are probably cut by most providers by now. SO...how many accomplicises does the rogue WebTV user have? |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
Mike Kruger wrote:
Michael Warner wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:00:28 -0700, Paul Berg wrote: Police arrested Eschweiler and charged him with two counts of attempted assault. /Attempted/ assault? Sounds like he succeeded. Succeeded all too well. Shouldn't "battery" be in there somewhere, too? "Battery" doesn't appear in the Oregon criminal code. There's just "assault" in various degrees. "Assault and battery" is a civil tort but not a criminal offense under the criminal code. Peace and justice, |
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Mike A Schwab wrote:
On Aug 18, 11:18 am, "Mike Kruger" wrote: Michael Warner wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 07:00:28 -0700, Paul Berg wrote: Police arrested Eschweiler and charged him with two counts of attempted assault. /Attempted/ assault? Sounds like he succeeded. Succeeded all too well. Shouldn't "battery" be in there somewhere, too? Mike Kruger In Puritan New England, Christmas wasn't even a legal holiday until 1856 I would raise it to attempted vehicular homicide. The initial charges filed by the police are just to take the guy into custody and hold him 'til his initial court hearing. By the time it gets to that point, the file will be reviewed by a district attorney and a complaint stating the "real" charges will be filed. Peace and justice, |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
Bjorn Berg f/Fergie Berg and All the Ships at S wrote:
Who the hell was stupid and kicked his truck and WHY? Somebody apparently did something stupid to cause something a lot more stupid. That was jackass and entirely preventable. No real sympathy for any kickers. Scale, Bjorn, scale. "My object all sublime I shall achieve in time - To let the punishment fit the crime - The punishment fit the crime" - Gilbert and Sullivan |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
On Aug 18, 1:20 pm, "Mike Kruger" wrote:
Bjorn Berg f/Fergie Berg and All the Ships at S wrote: Who the hell was stupid and kicked his truck and WHY? Somebody apparently did something stupid to cause something a lot more stupid. That was jackass and entirely preventable. No real sympathy for any kickers. Scale, Bjorn, scale. "My object all sublime I shall achieve in time - To let the punishment fit the crime - The punishment fit the crime" - Gilbert and Sullivan Were they heavy too? Newton's Street Law For every meaningless one-sided psychotic act of violence there is something caused by some dumb mofo that could've behaved better and SURPRIZE! See also correlates--Darwin's Law Also A dolt education--the Dolt with seniority teaches the lesson. You don't act like that in a small town. Why would you do it in Portland? It's mighty bad, still grow up. Paul is a pretty good troll. Fergie and I have pondered adopting him so we could eat our young but we opted for another scoop and chocolate sauce. |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
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From The (Portland) Oregonian - August 18, 2007 Portland police say a 47-year-old driver appears to have intentionally used his car to bowl over two bicyclists who were riding along Southeast Clinton Street on Friday afternoon. The cyclists -- Ben Ramsdell, 25, and Timothy Mastne, 41 -- were brought by ambulance from the 1000 block of Clinton Street to OHSU Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Police spokesman Sgt. Brian Schmautz said he didn't know what injuries they suffered. Schmautz said the driver, Johnny Jerry Eschweiler, was charged with two counts of attempted first-degree assault and booked into jail Friday evening. "Apparently the bicyclists were hit by the car and knocked off," Schmautz said. "He (Eschweiler) dragged the bikes about 100 feet before he came to a stop." Southeast precinct officers responded to the scene at 12:41 p.m. Schmautz said it appears the three were arguing, but he wasn't sure if the dispute started before or after Eschweiler struck the cyclists. Multnomah County court records show Eschweiler has two traffic tickets, for failing to obey a traffic-control device in 2000 and speeding in 2005. He paid fines and fees of $135 and $141, respectively. ~ |
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Raged motorist strikes two cyclists
"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in message .. . Paul Berg wrote: ... The cyclists, 25-year-old Ben Ramsdell and 41-year-old Timothy Mastne, were taken to OHSU. Their injuries were not life-threatening. Neither cyclist was wearing a helmet. Why is h*lm*t non-use always reported, when a foam bicycle hat provides little more than bump and scrape protection? Oh damn, here we go... |
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