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Old May 17th 11, 04:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
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On May 16, 10:59*pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 11:32:19 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six


Not the same. *Approaching the roundabout is not negotiation of the
roundabout. *The part you quote in the Highway Code does not refer to
the "approach to the roundabout" but to vehicles already negotiating
the roundabout approaching the reader. *It does not appear that
English is your first language. *Are you alien?


The HC does not mention negotiation of the roundabout:

185

When reaching the roundabout you should

* * * give priority to traffic approaching from your right, unless directed
otherwise by signs, road markings or traffic lights
* * * check whether road markings allow you to enter the roundabout without
giving way. If so, proceed, but still look to the right before joining
* * * watch out for all other road users already on the roundabout; be aware
they may not be signalling correctly or at all
* * * look forward before moving off to make sure traffic in front has moved
off

It does not say give priority to traffic approaching from your right which is
already on the roundabout.

You give way to traffic approaching from your *right - whether it is on the
roundabout or not.


I'm sure you must find that concept idiotic! Are you an alien?



OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.

You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed - and you then run in to the side of it.

Who is to blame?

That is why the HC says give way to traffic approaching from the right and does
not say give way to traffic approaching from the right which is already on the
roundabout.

Do you sometimes use the name Mason - you seem to be rather Simple.
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This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

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Old May 17th 11, 10:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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On May 17, 4:23*pm, Judith wrote:

OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


You really should not be on the road with such defective eyesight.
There happens to be a 9" brick wall all around me with no cameras.

You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed *- and you then run in to the side of it.

Who is to blame?


The other road user for not moderating their speed on the approach to
the roundabout to fit in with other road users. If he can't see, he
should not speed around the roundabout.


That is why the HC says give way to traffic approaching from the right and does
not say give way to traffic approaching from the right which is already on the
roundabout.


You have a simplified view of our traffic system. The book is used in
conjunction with experience on the road of which you show little
understanding of the British road system, are you an alien?
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Old May 18th 11, 03:09 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On Tue, 17 May 2011 16:23:03 +0100, Judith wrote:




OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


That is a really great commendation, coming from the judith.
Next in line is the esteemed award of being dim, crazy, weird, and
dystopic.




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Old May 18th 11, 07:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:35:06 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

On May 17, 4:23*pm, Judith wrote:

OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


You really should not be on the road with such defective eyesight.
There happens to be a 9" brick wall all around me with no cameras.

You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed *- and you then run in to the side of it.

Who is to blame?


The other road user for not moderating their speed on the approach to
the roundabout to fit in with other road users. If he can't see, he
should not speed around the roundabout.



What on earth made you think he could not see?

What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?

Have you put in for your test yet?

I suggest some more lessons - Oh - and concentrate on the Theory Test.

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Killed : Pedestrian 26 Cyclist 21
KSI: Pedestrian 319 Cyclist 547
All: Pedestrian 1420 Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)



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Old May 19th 11, 02:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On May 18, 7:34*am, Judith wrote:
On Tue, 17 May 2011 14:35:06 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:



On May 17, 4:23*pm, Judith wrote:


OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


You really should not be on the road with such defective eyesight.
There happens to be a 9" brick wall all around me with no cameras.


You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed *- and you then run in to the side of it.


Who is to blame?


The other road user for not moderating their speed on the approach to
the roundabout to fit in with other road users. *If he can't see, he
should not speed around the roundabout.


What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.

What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.


Have you put in for your test yet?

I suggest some more lessons - Oh - and concentrate on the Theory Test.



25 years or so with a clean licence and over 500000 miles on UK
roads. I see these mistakes often, which is how I avoid the nutters.
Please feel free to freeze to death at your nearest roundabout while
the traffic keeps approaching the roundabout from your right, nutter.
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Old May 19th 11, 05:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:


snip


What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.



What a ****wit you are. So sometimes an accident is caused by a particular
action - therefore all accidents are caused by that same action.


What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.



Another speculative conclusion for you to jump to.

Do you sometimes post using the name Mason?

You seem to be quite Simple.

--
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 Cyclist 21
KSI: Pedestrian 319 Cyclist 547
All: Pedestrian 1420 Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)



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Old May 19th 11, 03:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On May 19, 5:21*am, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

snip

What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.


What a ****wit you are. *So sometimes an accident is caused by a particular
action - therefore all accidents *are caused by that same action.

What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.


Another speculative conclusion for you to jump to.

Do you sometimes post using the name Mason?

You seem to be quite Simple.

-- * *
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 * * * * Cyclist 21
KSI: * * Pedestrian 319 * * * *Cyclist 547
All: * * *Pedestrian 1420 * * * Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)


On May 17, 4:23 pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:



On May 16, 10:59 pm, Judith wrote:



I'm sure you must find that concept idiotic! Are you an alien?


OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.

You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed - and you then run in to the side of it.

Who is to blame?


You are, for dithering. You can't make up your mind. Safe to go,
GO! Dither and you're ketsup.
So what does greater speed mean then. It means excessive, otherwise
there is no need to mention it. You still have failed to inform us of
your origins. Answer the question, are you alien to this land?
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Old May 19th 11, 07:35 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On Thu, 19 May 2011 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

On May 19, 5:21*am, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

snip

What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.


What a ****wit you are. *So sometimes an accident is caused by a particular
action - therefore all accidents *are caused by that same action.

What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.


Another speculative conclusion for you to jump to.

Do you sometimes post using the name Mason?

You seem to be quite Simple.

-- * *
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 * * * * Cyclist 21
KSI: * * Pedestrian 319 * * * *Cyclist 547
All: * * *Pedestrian 1420 * * * Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)


On May 17, 4:23 pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:



On May 16, 10:59 pm, Judith wrote:



I'm sure you must find that concept idiotic! Are you an alien?


OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.

You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed - and you then run in to the side of it.

Who is to blame?


You are




Good - so you agree that the vehicle approaching from the right has right of
way as I had suggested.

QED

--
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 Cyclist 21
KSI: Pedestrian 319 Cyclist 547
All: Pedestrian 1420 Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)



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Old May 19th 11, 10:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
thirty-six
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Default Over the handlebars again. Good job he had a helmet on.

On May 19, 7:35*pm, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:



On May 19, 5:21*am, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:


snip


What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.


What a ****wit you are. *So sometimes an accident is caused by a particular
action - therefore all accidents *are caused by that same action.


What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.


Another speculative conclusion for you to jump to.


Do you sometimes post using the name Mason?


You seem to be quite Simple.


-- * *
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 * * * * Cyclist 21
KSI: * * Pedestrian 319 * * * *Cyclist 547
All: * * *Pedestrian 1420 * * * Cyclist 3444


Which is by far the most dangerous?


(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)


On May 17, 4:23 pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:


On May 16, 10:59 pm, Judith wrote:


I'm sure you must find that concept idiotic! *Are you an alien?


OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed *- and you then run in to the side of it.


Who is to blame?


You are


Good - so you agree that the vehicle approaching from the right has right of
way as I had suggested.


No such thing. Road users should approach the hazard at an
appropriate moderated speed so as to allow all users of the roundabout
safe use of the roundabout. Priority should be given to those already
on the roundabout whether they be in front or behind. Vehicles are
expected to appear from the right and pass to the left, not from the
left to the right. You travel around the roundabout in a clockwise
direction and normally have priority (unless otherwise signed) while
on the roundabout.

With gonzo's like you, it's no wonder that councils feel the need to
replace roundabouts with legally enforcible traffic signals, which
generally have a negative effect on the throughput of traffic.


QED

for a gonzo.
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Old May 19th 11, 10:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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On Thu, 19 May 2011 14:04:37 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:

On May 19, 7:35*pm, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2011 07:51:13 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:



On May 19, 5:21*am, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 18:15:21 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:


snip


What on earth made you think he could not see?


I was speaking for the majority who make a mistake, not the minority
who choose to intentionally charge the roundabout to claim possession
with speed.


What a ****wit you are. *So sometimes an accident is caused by a particular
action - therefore all accidents *are caused by that same action.


What on earth made you think he was "speeding" round the roundabout?


It is the usual behaviour which leads to a collision or potentil
collision.


Another speculative conclusion for you to jump to.


Do you sometimes post using the name Mason?


You seem to be quite Simple.


-- * *
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 * * * * Cyclist 21
KSI: * * Pedestrian 319 * * * *Cyclist 547
All: * * *Pedestrian 1420 * * * Cyclist 3444


Which is by far the most dangerous?


(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)


On May 17, 4:23 pm, Judith wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 17:49:47 -0700 (PDT), thirty-six
wrote:


On May 16, 10:59 pm, Judith wrote:


I'm sure you must find that concept idiotic! *Are you an alien?


OK - I can see that you have **** for brains.


You are approaching a roundabout.
From the immediate right you can see a vehicle almost on the roundabout but not
quite - ie it is approaching the roundabout.
You are going quite slowly and accelerate on to the roundabout before the other
vehicle does.
The other vehicle joins the roundabout at about the same time as you at a
greater speed *- and you then run in to the side of it.


Who is to blame?


You are


Good - so you agree that the vehicle approaching from the right has right of
way as I had suggested.


No such thing. Road users should approach the hazard at an
appropriate moderated speed so as to allow all users of the roundabout
safe use of the roundabout. Priority should be given to those already
on the roundabout whether they be in front or behind. Vehicles are
expected to appear from the right and pass to the left, not from the
left to the right. You travel around the roundabout in a clockwise
direction and normally have priority (unless otherwise signed) while
on the roundabout.

With gonzo's like you, it's no wonder that councils feel the need to
replace roundabouts with legally enforcible traffic signals, which
generally have a negative effect on the throughput of traffic.


QED

for a gonzo.




I am sorry I made you appear to be stupid - I didn't intend to.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

 




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