The Budget - Bad News for Motorists

On 17/03/2016 23:20, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 10:52:21 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:


What or whom do you imagine uses the fuel?

So you agree it is not a motoring specific tax.
Anyone who buys fuel pays the same tax regardless of the vehicle they use or the purpose of their purchase.

Once again I thank you for proving my point.

....says the chain-smoker who uses so much petrol in his lighter.

On 18/03/2016 00:11, TMS320 wrote:

"MrCheerful" wrote

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year...

I wonder how much of that is just recycled benefits.

Some; there's no doubt about that.

Especially when you consider the cases of people supllied with
Motability vehicles.

And if you (correctly) class Retirement Pension as a benefit, some more.

On 17/03/2016 21:39, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 8:47:51 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:

Do you class the circa 300% tax on fuel as something other than a
motoring tax?


Fools duty is not a percentage of the pump price.

Let me guess...

It can't be a motoring tax because you buy 0.1l or petrol per annum for
your cigarette lighter and another for your barbecue?

I smoke the occasional Gurkha Black Dragon, they go well with caviar and Vodka.
As a cyclist I have to pay the same pump price as a motorist when I buy fuel.

Quite so.

On 17/03/2016 20:59, Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 17 March 2016 20:39:05 UTC, Simon Jester wrote:


Motoring taxes only pay for 60% of the motorway budget.
The other 30 Billion is payed out of general taxation.
Since the average motorists will no longer be paying any tax how will they compensate those who fund the lifestyle they choose , i.e. cyclists?

I just paid £1400 in council tax for roads that I am not trashing.#

Is that all?

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 2:05:28 AM UTC, JNugent wrote:



...says the chain-smoker who uses so much petrol in his lighter.

Says the Liverpudlian (AKA Thieving Scally) who had Smoking Education classes in school.

MrCheerful wrote:
On 17/03/2016 21:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 9:01:10 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?

VED raises £6 billion a year, that is the only specific motoring tax.

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year,

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?

The rest of the 28 billion comes mainly from fuel duty. It is simple to
look up such things, the government sites can be difficult to negotiate,
but wikipedia has a simple version. If you do a quick google for
something like' uk government income from fuel duty' you will easily
find the information you are trying to evade.

When our thick unemployed handyman was still posting here - before I chased
him from the group - he used to claim that the psychopaths contributed more
to the exchequer than they received.

Needless to say, utter rubbish. I have posted the figures. The psychopath
is a net drain on the public purse.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 18/03/2016 03:47, Paul George wrote:

On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 2:05:28 AM UTC, JNugent wrote:

...says the chain-smoker who uses so much petrol in his lighter.

Says the Liverpudlian (AKA Thieving Scally) who had Smoking Education classes in school.

You're getting even more desperate, eh?

"JNugent" wrote
On 18/03/2016 00:11, TMS320 wrote:

"MrCheerful" wrote

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year...

I wonder how much of that is just recycled benefits.

Some; there's no doubt about that.

Especially when you consider the cases of people supllied with Motability
vehicles.

....even when it has resulted from excessive chip consumption.

And if you (correctly) class Retirement Pension as a benefit, some more.

....tax credits, in work benefit, jobless benefit, housing benefit...

On 18/03/2016 14:27, TMS320 wrote:

"JNugent" wrote
On 18/03/2016 00:11, TMS320 wrote:
"MrCheerful" wrote

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year...

I wonder how much of that is just recycled benefits.

Some; there's no doubt about that.

Especially when you consider the cases of people supllied with Motability
vehicles.

...even when it has resulted from excessive chip consumption.

And if you (correctly) class Retirement Pension as a benefit, some more.

...tax credits, in work benefit, jobless benefit, housing benefit...

Perhaps you think benefit income should all be paid in kind? Groceries
and household cleaning matreials, maybe? Or perhaps in vouchers marked
"No tobacco, no alcohol, no petrol"?

Suggest it to your MP. Please feel free to take all the credit for the idea.

Do let us know how you get on.

"JNugent" wrote
On 18/03/2016 14:27, TMS320 wrote:
"JNugent" wrote
On 18/03/2016 00:11, TMS320 wrote:
"MrCheerful" wrote

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year...

I wonder how much of that is just recycled benefits.

Some; there's no doubt about that.

Especially when you consider the cases of people supllied with
Motability
vehicles.

...even when it has resulted from excessive chip consumption.

And if you (correctly) class Retirement Pension as a benefit, some more.

...tax credits, in work benefit, jobless benefit, housing benefit...

Perhaps you think benefit income should all be paid in kind? Groceries and
household cleaning matreials, maybe? Or perhaps in vouchers marked "No
tobacco, no alcohol, no petrol"?

I merely pointed out that a 28 billion pot contains recycled benefits.

Suggest it to your MP. Please feel free to take all the credit for the
idea.

Do let us know how you get on.

Why would I put your ideas to my MP?