The Budget - Bad News for Motorists

Now the personal tax limit has been raised it means the vast majority of motorists pay no income tax.

Road damage is the fourth power of axle loading.

How do motorists plan to reimburse cyclists?

On 16/03/2016 22:29, Simon Jester wrote:

Now the personal tax limit has been raised it means the vast majority of motorists pay no income tax.

It's only going to £11,000 pa.

Even you earn more than that, I expect.

Road damage is the fourth power of axle loading.
How do motorists plan to reimburse cyclists?

Do HMRC calculate income tax on the basis of vehicle weight?

Maybe on your planet.

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 4:02:05 AM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 16/03/2016 22:29, Simon Jester wrote:

Now the personal tax limit has been raised it means the vast majority of motorists pay no income tax.

It's only going to £11,000 pa.

Even you earn more than that, I expect.

Road damage is the fourth power of axle loading.
How do motorists plan to reimburse cyclists?

Do HMRC calculate income tax on the basis of vehicle weight?

Maybe on your planet.

Motoring taxes only pay for 60% of the motorway budget.
The other 30 Billion is payed out of general taxation.
Since the average motorists will no longer be paying any tax how will they compensate those who fund the lifestyle they choose , i.e. cyclists?

On 17/03/2016 20:39, Simon Jester wrote:

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 4:02:05 AM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 16/03/2016 22:29, Simon Jester wrote:

Now the personal tax limit has been raised it means the vast majority of motorists pay no income tax.

It's only going to £11,000 pa.
Even you earn more than that, I expect.

Road damage is the fourth power of axle loading.
How do motorists plan to reimburse cyclists?

Do HMRC calculate income tax on the basis of vehicle weight?
Maybe on your planet.

Motoring taxes only pay for 60% of the motorway budget.
The other 30 Billion is payed out of general taxation.

Do you class the circa 300% tax on fuel as something other than a
motoring tax?

Let me guess...

It can't be a motoring tax because you buy 0.1l or petrol per annum for
your cigarette lighter and another for your barbecue?

Since the average motorists will no longer be paying any tax how will they compensate those who fund the lifestyle they choose , i.e. cyclists?

There you go again.

What makes you think... er... better make that "suppose"... that the
average motorist (however defined) has an income of less than, or no
more than, £10,500 pa?

On Thursday, 17 March 2016 20:39:05 UTC, Simon Jester wrote:


Motoring taxes only pay for 60% of the motorway budget.
The other 30 Billion is payed out of general taxation.
Since the average motorists will no longer be paying any tax how will they compensate those who fund the lifestyle they choose , i.e. cyclists?

I just paid £1400 in council tax for roads that I am not trashing.

On 17/03/2016 20:39, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 4:02:05 AM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 16/03/2016 22:29, Simon Jester wrote:

Now the personal tax limit has been raised it means the vast majority of motorists pay no income tax.

It's only going to £11,000 pa.

Even you earn more than that, I expect.

Road damage is the fourth power of axle loading.
How do motorists plan to reimburse cyclists?

Do HMRC calculate income tax on the basis of vehicle weight?

Maybe on your planet.

Motoring taxes only pay for 60% of the motorway budget.
The other 30 Billion is payed out of general taxation.
Since the average motorists will no longer be paying any tax how will they compensate those who fund the lifestyle they choose , i.e. cyclists?


Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?
Motorists put in around 28 billion a year, so are you saying that the
overall budget on Motorways is in the region of 75 billion a year? If
so then you are seriously confused.

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 9:01:10 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?

VED raises £6 billion a year, that is the only specific motoring tax.

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year,

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 8:47:51 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:

Do you class the circa 300% tax on fuel as something other than a
motoring tax?


Fools duty is not a percentage of the pump price.

Let me guess...

It can't be a motoring tax because you buy 0.1l or petrol per annum for
your cigarette lighter and another for your barbecue?

I smoke the occasional Gurkha Black Dragon, they go well with caviar and Vodka.
As a cyclist I have to pay the same pump price as a motorist when I buy fuel.

On 17/03/2016 21:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 9:01:10 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?

VED raises £6 billion a year, that is the only specific motoring tax.

Motorists put in around 28 billion a year,

Can you suggest where your figures can be checked?


The rest of the 28 billion comes mainly from fuel duty. It is simple to
look up such things, the government sites can be difficult to negotiate,
but wikipedia has a simple version. If you do a quick google for
something like' uk government income from fuel duty' you will easily
find the information you are trying to evade.

The telegraph puts the income from motorists per year at 35 billion
(which is the total of fuel duty and ved in round terms),
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...motorways.html

The TOTAL transport department budget per year is under 10 billion.
(page 15) so the spend on motorways is nowhere near that.
https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...w_template.pdf

On Thursday, March 17, 2016 at 10:05:29 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:

The rest of the 28 billion comes mainly from fuel duty.

So not a motoring specific tax.
Thank you for proving my point.