Covid off subject

On Tue, 04 May 2021 07:51:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 9:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability.

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing.


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.

Do you? I haven't seen a newspaper for sale anywhere for a number of
years now. And it is a miserable situation as now when I paint
something I get paint all over the place as I no longer have old
newspapers to mask things off :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 6:43:14 p.m. UTC-4, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 07:51:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 9:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability..

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing.


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.
Do you? I haven't seen a newspaper for sale anywhere for a number of
years now. And it is a miserable situation as now when I paint
something I get paint all over the place as I no longer have old
newspapers to mask things off :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

Lots of newspapers still publishing here in Canada.

Cheers

On 5/4/2021 5:42 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 04 May 2021 07:51:40 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 9:49 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 03 May 2021 19:49:34 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 5/3/2021 7:20 PM, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 11:56:56 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 11:40:37 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:25:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have shown that citation to you several times. If you are incapable of actually reading it I have no intentions of continuing to cite it for you to forget yet again.
Is it too difficult for you to provide the link again? I'm quite
incapable of finding such a link. In case you've forgotten the topic
of the moment, it's the link that backs up your claim of a 30% drop in
mortality rate compared to an unspecified baseline. Google can't find
it either:
https://www.google.com/search?q=30%25+FEWER+people+are+dying+from+all+ill nesses

Did you look at the photos of the mass burials currently underway in
India and South America? Here's the URL again in case you also can't
find that:
https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+mass+graves&tbm=isch
Look at it while you try to rationalize your rubbish that Covid-19 is
not a problem, that there are no excess deaths, and that it's all a
plot by greedy politicians and corporations to deprive you of your
constitutional right to make a fool of yourself.

Also, I have bad news for you. I apparently survived the side effects
of the second Pfizer vaccination shot and will be around to provide
you with the attention you seem to crave.

We know that you are completely incapable of anything. You are too dumb to know that the "baseline" is the normal 2.8 million deaths in the USA each year which has been the case for a decade. Your brains are completely gone and since it would require the ability to think and manipulate the CDC site to discover the 30% drop in deaths for the year I guess that you can simply believe whatever you want to believe such as that there is no baseline of that it is made up.

After your pal Biden has told us that we have had 600,000+ additional total deaths in 2020, your response to the fact that the mortuary business not even keeping up with inflation was that the article was dated 2018 despite the fact that the factual tables were through 2020. Let's face it, you are simply incapable of understanding all of this complicated stuff. You want to be scared to death and shivering with fear so that you can bow down before your masters, the Democrats. So go right ahead, I couldn't care less.

From your postings I am of the mind that you are have a rapidly growing dementia. You've already told us that you cannot ride a bike. That you were an analog engineer but cannot understand electronics. I have no problems designing radio links for PG&E and the water company. I had no problems working with NASA which is normally far more paperwork that design ability.

So simply go away Jeff, I won't answer your ignorance anymore.

Hmmm.... base line? Yup. and of course that makes the numbers lost in
combat look like a very minor matter. After all the losses in Vietnam
only averaged a bit over 4,000 a year which viewed in the light of he
several million "normal" deaths annually in the U.S. latest figures
would show that Vietnam deaths amounted to some 0.16%. A mere nothing.


'One death is tragic but a million deaths is a statistic.'

Yup and Joe was right too. Read any newspaper :-)

(yes, I know that newspapers no longer exist but the term is easy to
spell and most adults still remember what they were :-)


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.

Do you? I haven't seen a newspaper for sale anywhere for a number of
years now. And it is a miserable situation as now when I paint
something I get paint all over the place as I no longer have old
newspapers to mask things off :-)


I was at my daughter's picking up a bike to service. She
often buys/forwards them as you can't buy a Trib in WI now.

Epoch Times mailed from a friend in San Diego. I peruse
their online front page regularly but I'm not a subscriber.

Been a WSJ subscriber for over 40 years. Not what it was but
still better than most.

Although I enjoy online perusal for what it is I can't
imagine reading an entire newspaper cover to cover online
every morning; my version of hell. YMMV

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Tue, 4 May 2021 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:39:29 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2021 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 5/2/2021 10:27 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

snip

Tom sometimes I wish you catch COVID 19 so bad the it
would shut you up for a couple of months and kept you off
the bike for more than a year with no taste or smell. This
is not nice of course and I would go to confession if I
was religious.

Well of course I don't wish that anyone contract Covid-19,
but it's true that when those that eschew facts and logic
come down with it that if tends to help fix their belief
system.

Trump could have followed the advice of medical experts and
encouraged mask mandates and social distancing, and he could
have ordered sufficient quantities of vaccine early-on, and
lots more people would still be alive. Those individuals
that believe everything that he says would have followed.
The GOP governors would have had cover to make better
decisions.

It's not that some Republicans don't trust the vaccine, it's
that they worship a dope. But even that dope says to get
vaccinated.
A President might suggest but cannot command. Which is good.
we are not France. Nor China.

Governors both did and didn't over various time frames with
zero correlation. See also their economic destruction and
restraint of individual liberty- no clear positive effects
and we have 50 real life examples. Zero correlation.

You've just seen Scharf, John and Beatie denying reality as if they can change the world by saying the opposite.
Denying reality? You mean because the U.S. has a more Covid cases than
any country in the world, as of this morning just about 10% of the
U.S. population has caught the disease. actually 9.9878%. Or that
total deaths due to the disease is higher then any other country in
the world.

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19. You are perfectly welcome to believe anything you like. As for 600,000+ covid deaths? I've shown you that funeral homes didn't even make enough money to meet inflation over the last 4 years. But again, reality if something you and your best butt buddy Jeff don't have any connection with. All those positive cases? Again I told you that I designed the tools to perform PCR testing with and that they cannot diagnose anything beyond the presence of a corona virus of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3IqZjT_9A
No Tom, you haven't shown that "less than 15,000 Americans dies
directly or indirectly from covis-19". You have danced around and
played with numbers and probably do believe your own delusions.

Unfortunately no one else does :-)

The CDC current information is 591,514 deaths due to the virus.
In California there are 61,965 deaths that is more deaths then 206 of
the 222 countries and locations reporting.

John, I have shown you the actual CDC numbers. What you are citing is the numbers of deaths for which someone was paid for. I showed you that no one actually died because a 20% increase in deaths would be a 20% increase in funeral expenses and mortuaries are making NO MORE MONEY NOW than they did last year and the year before. This has been a scam and you have been suckered in by it. Everyone knows someone that has died and the largest cause of death of older American is pneumonia. I defy you to tell the difference between pneumonia and covid-19. Oh, that's right - if they say covid-19 they get $50,000. That is what makes the difference.

No Tommy you haven't shown anyone anything. You have talked a lot and
claimed various things but you have not proved anything. Well, except
for the fact that you are either suffer from delusions, or a liar.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 5:40:30 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2021 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:39:29 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2021 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 5/2/2021 10:27 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

snip

Tom sometimes I wish you catch COVID 19 so bad the it
would shut you up for a couple of months and kept you off
the bike for more than a year with no taste or smell. This
is not nice of course and I would go to confession if I
was religious.

Well of course I don't wish that anyone contract Covid-19,
but it's true that when those that eschew facts and logic
come down with it that if tends to help fix their belief
system.

Trump could have followed the advice of medical experts and
encouraged mask mandates and social distancing, and he could
have ordered sufficient quantities of vaccine early-on, and
lots more people would still be alive. Those individuals
that believe everything that he says would have followed.
The GOP governors would have had cover to make better
decisions.

It's not that some Republicans don't trust the vaccine, it's
that they worship a dope. But even that dope says to get
vaccinated.
A President might suggest but cannot command. Which is good.
we are not France. Nor China.

Governors both did and didn't over various time frames with
zero correlation. See also their economic destruction and
restraint of individual liberty- no clear positive effects
and we have 50 real life examples. Zero correlation.

You've just seen Scharf, John and Beatie denying reality as if they can change the world by saying the opposite.
Denying reality? You mean because the U.S. has a more Covid cases than
any country in the world, as of this morning just about 10% of the
U.S. population has caught the disease. actually 9.9878%. Or that
total deaths due to the disease is higher then any other country in
the world.

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or indirectly from covis-19. You are perfectly welcome to believe anything you like.. As for 600,000+ covid deaths? I've shown you that funeral homes didn't even make enough money to meet inflation over the last 4 years. But again, reality if something you and your best butt buddy Jeff don't have any connection with. All those positive cases? Again I told you that I designed the tools to perform PCR testing with and that they cannot diagnose anything beyond the presence of a corona virus of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3IqZjT_9A
No Tom, you haven't shown that "less than 15,000 Americans dies
directly or indirectly from covis-19". You have danced around and
played with numbers and probably do believe your own delusions.

Unfortunately no one else does :-)

The CDC current information is 591,514 deaths due to the virus.
In California there are 61,965 deaths that is more deaths then 206 of
the 222 countries and locations reporting.

John, I have shown you the actual CDC numbers. What you are citing is the numbers of deaths for which someone was paid for. I showed you that no one actually died because a 20% increase in deaths would be a 20% increase in funeral expenses and mortuaries are making NO MORE MONEY NOW than they did last year and the year before. This has been a scam and you have been suckered in by it. Everyone knows someone that has died and the largest cause of death of older American is pneumonia. I defy you to tell the difference between pneumonia and covid-19. Oh, that's right - if they say covid-19 they get $50,000. That is what makes the difference.
No Tommy you haven't shown anyone anything. You have talked a lot and
claimed various things but you have not proved anything. Well, except
for the fact that you are either suffer from delusions, or a liar.

There was a saying about you and Frank - "There are none so blind as those who will not see".

I did extensive scuba diving and I was NEVER stupid enough to dive past the limit and damage my lungs from that.

Tom Kunich writes:

On Tuesday, May 4, 2021 at 5:40:30 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2021 05:59:45 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:39:29 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 16:48:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:05:00 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 3 May 2021 07:27:43 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, May 2, 2021 at 4:29:17 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/2/2021 6:03 PM, sms wrote:
On 5/2/2021 10:27 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

snip

Tom sometimes I wish you catch COVID 19 so bad the it
would shut you up for a couple of months and kept you off
the bike for more than a year with no taste or smell. This
is not nice of course and I would go to confession if I
was religious.

Well of course I don't wish that anyone contract Covid-19,
but it's true that when those that eschew facts and logic
come down with it that if tends to help fix their belief
system.

Trump could have followed the advice of medical experts and
encouraged mask mandates and social distancing, and he could
have ordered sufficient quantities of vaccine early-on, and
lots more people would still be alive. Those individuals
that believe everything that he says would have followed.
The GOP governors would have had cover to make better
decisions.

It's not that some Republicans don't trust the vaccine, it's
that they worship a dope. But even that dope says to get
vaccinated.
A President might suggest but cannot command. Which is good.
we are not France. Nor China.

Governors both did and didn't over various time frames with
zero correlation. See also their economic destruction and
restraint of individual liberty- no clear positive effects
and we have 50 real life examples. Zero correlation.

You've just seen Scharf, John and Beatie denying reality as
if they can change the world by saying the opposite.
Denying reality? You mean because the U.S. has a more Covid cases than
any country in the world, as of this morning just about 10% of the
U.S. population has caught the disease. actually 9.9878%. Or that
total deaths due to the disease is higher then any other country in
the world.

And remember... the bulk of the Covid sufferers caught the disease
under the gallant leadership of the Great God Donald.

I've shown you that less than 15,000 Americans dies directly or
indirectly from covis-19. You are perfectly welcome to believe
anything you like. As for 600,000+ covid deaths? I've shown you
that funeral homes didn't even make enough money to meet
inflation over the last 4 years. But again, reality if
something you and your best butt buddy Jeff don't have any
connection with. All those positive cases? Again I told you
that I designed the tools to perform PCR testing with and that
they cannot diagnose anything beyond the presence of a corona
virus of some sort. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT3IqZjT_9A
No Tom, you haven't shown that "less than 15,000 Americans dies
directly or indirectly from covis-19". You have danced around and
played with numbers and probably do believe your own delusions.

Unfortunately no one else does :-)

The CDC current information is 591,514 deaths due to the virus.
In California there are 61,965 deaths that is more deaths then 206 of
the 222 countries and locations reporting.

John, I have shown you the actual CDC numbers. What you are citing
is the numbers of deaths for which someone was paid for. I showed
you that no one actually died because a 20% increase in deaths
would be a 20% increase in funeral expenses and mortuaries are
making NO MORE MONEY NOW than they did last year and the year
before. This has been a scam and you have been suckered in by
it. Everyone knows someone that has died and the largest cause of
death of older American is pneumonia. I defy you to tell the
difference between pneumonia and covid-19. Oh, that's right - if
they say covid-19 they get $50,000. That is what makes the
difference.
No Tommy you haven't shown anyone anything. You have talked a lot and
claimed various things but you have not proved anything. Well, except
for the fact that you are either suffer from delusions, or a liar.

There was a saying about you and Frank - "There are none so blind as
those who will not see".

I did extensive scuba diving and I was NEVER stupid enough to dive
past the limit and damage my lungs from that.

That shoe fits on the other foot -- John did extensive bicycle riding
and was never stupid enough to give himself a concussion. Life takes
its toll.

On Wed, 5 May 2021 07:18:32 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I did extensive scuba diving and I was NEVER stupid enough to dive past the limit and damage my lungs from that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diver_certification

Verify NAUI Certification
https://www.naui.org/verify-certification/
I plug in Thomas Kunich plus your birthday, and get nothing found. I
was fairly sure of the of the month and year of the birthday, but not
the day. So I went through all 31 possible days. Nothing found.
I also tried the PADI search:
https://apps.padi.com/scuba-diving/replacement-card/SearchRecord.aspx?languageID=5
No record found. Note that these certifications do NOT expire.

It's possible that you were certified by some other training
organization such as CMAS or SSI, possess some other type of
certification, or possibly something issued by the military. Maybe I
have the wrong birthday or can't spell your name.

I'll rate this as "very suspicious" unless you want to provide some
means of verifying that your alleged "extensive scuba diving
experience" isn't another lie. Oh wait... you said you weren't going
to answer any more of my questions.

Incidentally, SCUBA is an acronym and is always capitalized. One does
not dive "past" a limit. One dives "below" the diving depth limit.
For recreational diving, the limit is 130ft. Deeper than 60ft is
considered a "deep" dive. One doesn't damage their lungs by diving
too deep. The regulator equalized the air pressure to that of the
water.

If you dive too deep, what happens is called is nitrogen narcosis:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_narcosis
Some of the initial symptoms of nitrogen narcosis are muddled
thinking, faulty reasoning, overconfidence, tunnel vision and
hallucinations.
Ummm... Have you been diving recently?


--
Jeff Liebermann
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Wed, 05 May 2021 15:34:05 -0700, Tom Kunich scribed:


There was a saying about you and Frank - "There are none so blind as
those who will not see".

Clean your mirror silly little tommy.

I did extensive scuba diving and I was NEVER stupid enough to dive
past the limit and damage my lungs from that.
That shoe fits on the other foot -- John did extensive bicycle riding
and was never stupid enough to give himself a concussion. Life takes
its toll.
So now mechanical failure of a component that was manufactured
incorrectly is "stupid" on my part? Tell me what bike you ride?

A Graecross MTB is the brand of the frame. What does that have to do with
the price of fish in Outer Mongolia or your stupid persistence in buying
cheap crap.

BTW, given Johns Industrial background, his scuba diving might have been
for work,

On 2021-05-04, AMuzi wrote:
snip


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.


And around here we have the local paper, the Santa Cruz Sentinel and its
larger brother, the San Jose Mercury.

I did receive a sample copy of the Epoch times in the mail once. I toy with
subscribing but it does not seem to have much in the way of science...lots
of politics, though. I still may yet....

The real versions, not electronic.

Oh....bicycle.

pH in Aptos

On 5/5/2021 6:43 PM, pH wrote:
On 2021-05-04, AMuzi wrote:
snip


No longer exist? I had the dead-tree versions of Sunday
Chicago Tribune, Epoch Times and Wall Street Journal at
coffee this morning.


And around here we have the local paper, the Santa Cruz Sentinel and its
larger brother, the San Jose Mercury.

I did receive a sample copy of the Epoch times in the mail once. I toy with
subscribing but it does not seem to have much in the way of science...lots
of politics, though. I still may yet....

The real versions, not electronic.

Oh....bicycle.

pH in Aptos


If you're a scientist, this will not cover your field in any
meaningful way:

https://www.sciencenews.org/

It's a good general survey of recent developments. The
interested reader can pursue further, beyond SN short
articles. I've subscribed for over 40 years.

Note the publisher prints warnings regularly about
subscription agent scams so if you decide you want it, go to
the publisher directly.

As with so much science reporting, there's a decided left
wing political viewpoint which has become more overt in
recent years. If you can't look past that, skip the magazine.




--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971