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Time to dispense with Greenland?
still just me wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:21:37 -0700, "Bill Sornson" wrote: I specified a time frame for `getting warmer.' And if the current (decade plus) cooling trend suddenly reverses itself, you may be correct (in a "few millenia"). http://images.dailytech.com:80/nimag...ge_hadcrut.jpg It's amazing that so many scientists can be so wrong about this, when Snorti has it all figured out! Argue about warming or cooling all you want - we're still screwing up the planet and something need to be done. When you can't eat fish from the open ocean more than once a week because they have too much mercury in them, when there are entire city water supplies polluted by industrial contaminants, when you have "don't do outdoor activities like cycling" days because the air quality is so bad, then it's time for the corporate polluters to start cleaning up all the **** they dump into OUR environment. Real conservatives know what conservative means. Do real conservatives actually exist? Real life political "conservatism" is actually a cover for inherited privilege and cronyism. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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OT: Nuclear Weapons
On Apr 1, 5:45 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article , Tom Sherman wrote: still just me wrote: On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:34:12 -0500, Tom Sherman wrote: What do the Iranians have to fear (rhetorical question)? Why could they possibly want a nuclear deterrant? After all, there are only two nuclear armed countries currently threatening to bomb them into oblivion, and two more nearby countries with nuclear weapons (one of which has a unstable government and low level near civil war). Regardless, an unstable, radical, short fused country like Iran with Nukes is a bad thing. I say we go in Israeli style and kick their nuclear program out of existence in one quick strike. Problem solved. It is attitudes like that which will result in most countries eventually having nuclear weapons. That will result in the weapons being eventually used. Most hominids are too foolish to be trusted with anything more dangerous than products made by Nerf®. I want nuclear weapons, too. Under a strict constructionist interpretation of the Second Amendment, the government cannot infringe upon my right to bear nuclear arms, tactical arms, guided missiles, cluster bombs, RPGs, cannons, hand grenades and arguably mines and IEDs. There is no limitation of our right to bear arms to guns: "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." That's all it says and that says it all. The NRA is a wimpy special interest failing to protect the rights of all but a tiny elite portion of arms owners and I am sick of the Republican Party kowtowing to those namby-pamby nattering peaceniks who want to take effective deterrence away from law-abiding citizens! Join the National Nuke Owners and Operators Organization and fight for your right to bear nuclear arms! Nukes don't go "click", dude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lfjc4Q9pso Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click." |
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Time to dispense with Greenland?
On Mar 31, 8:09*pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Michael Press wrote: There is no normal for climate. Global climate has been much warmer than now, as in medieval times, as well as prehistoric times when it was much, much warmer. Currently, over the most recent few millennia global climate has been getting warmer, and will continue to get warmer until the next continental ice sheets are laid down. To think that we will make the climate cooler is hubris. Almost all correct, except that the earth is actually cooling now. *(Has been for the last ten years.) Bill "Al's new $350M ad campaign notwithstanding" S. Ummm... Bill "Gets his news and science from Rush and other primary sources of valid scientific data within the GOP Lie Machine"... then why are the icecaps and any measured glacier melting? Nice data, Bill. Your source AND the explanation for the melt? Please note that Bill has killfiled me so that he doesn't have to answer pesky questions that undercut his baseless assertions. D'ohBoy |
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OT: Nuclear Weapons
On Apr 2, 5:53 pm, still just me wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Woland99 wrote: On Apr 1, 5:45 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: In article , snip The NRA is a wimpy special interest failing to protect the rights of all but a tiny elite portion of arms owners and I am sick of the Republican Party kowtowing to those namby-pamby nattering peaceniks who want to take effective deterrence away from law-abiding citizens! Join the National Nuke Owners and Operators Organization and fight for your right to bear nuclear arms! Nukes don't go "click", dude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lfjc4Q9pso Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click." Hey Tim, I don't think he liked your comments on the NRA. Here's an interesting article on the latest case the NRA is involved in:http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/a...ond_amendment/ Actually though, if they weren't now just an arm of the Republican Party now, they could make a much stronger case against the current interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. GWB recently took control of the National Guard(s) so that he could order them to Iraq. Since the NG's no longer meet the definition of a well-regulated people's militia to protect against tyranny of the national government, the entire basis that the courts have used for defining the 2nd amendment is now void. BTW - is it illegal to build my own nuclear bomb without using commercial "bomb parts"? I don't know that that's true. I know I need a permit for the plutonium. But I think as long as I don't own commercial bomb parts that anything I can build in my basement is OK. No - I was merely explaining why NRA folks love their guns. Because the go "click". You do not even have to stick them up sbdys posterior - just pull the trigger and feel that incredible power rush - he is dead dead dead and am alive alive alive. That's all. |
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Time to dispense with Greenland?
still just me wrote:
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008 17:04:14 -0700 (PDT), "D'ohBoy" wrote: Ummm... Bill "Gets his news and science from Rush and other primary sources of valid scientific data within the GOP Lie Machine"... then why are the icecaps and any measured glacier melting? Nice data, Bill. Your source AND the explanation for the melt? Ignore the man behind the falling Antarctic ice shelf! Ignore the man behind the ice shelf! Please note that Bill has killfiled me so that he doesn't have to answer pesky questions that undercut his baseless assertions. Hey, hey, me too! Me three! -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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OT: Nuclear Weapons
On Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:53:57 +0000, still just me wrote:
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 17:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Woland99 wrote: On Apr 1, 5:45 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: In article , snip The NRA is a wimpy special interest failing to protect the rights of all but a tiny elite portion of arms owners and I am sick of the Republican Party kowtowing to those namby-pamby nattering peaceniks who want to take effective deterrence away from law-abiding citizens! Join the National Nuke Owners and Operators Organization and fight for your right to bear nuclear arms! Nukes don't go "click", dude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lfjc4Q9pso Let me tell you something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy **** with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, stick it up your ass and pull the ****ing trigger 'til it goes "click." Hey Tim, I don't think he liked your comments on the NRA. Here's an interesting article on the latest case the NRA is involved in: http://www.abajournal.com/magazine/a...ond_amendment/ Actually though, if they weren't now just an arm of the Republican Party now, they could make a much stronger case against the current interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. GWB recently took control of the National Guard(s) so that he could order them to Iraq. Since the NG's no longer meet the definition of a well-regulated people's militia to protect against tyranny of the national government, the entire basis that the courts have used for defining the 2nd amendment is now void. BTW - is it illegal to build my own nuclear bomb without using commercial "bomb parts"? I don't know that that's true. I know I need a permit for the plutonium. But I think as long as I don't own commercial bomb parts that anything I can build in my basement is OK. Just spent last weekend at the Trinity Site. Also toured the Atomic Museum in Albuquerque. If you have several square miles of empty land, 10% of the national power grid*, and 10,000 people looking for work, you too can refine enough uranium to build your own "little boy." Then, if you want, you can send large amounts of it up to your own reactor (better find a few more people) and convert it to plutonium. Then feel free to borrow some of the existing explosive lens designs (oh, and build a "high explosives" factory while you're at it) to make your own "fat man" bomb. Now, this may get you in trouble with the NRC (a civilian agency), since they are the ones who actually arm the existing US stockpile. They likes their monopoly. Don't exactly know where the Pentagon stands on the issue. I think there's a feeling these days that just because the plans are out there, anyone can just pick up a few things at the home depot and build their own nuke. It doesn't help matters when China gives plutonium to North Korea (and who knows who else) to let them fast track one. The reality is, building these things takes a lot of energy and manpower, something most of the countries we are supposed to worry about don't have. And, they'd have to hide it from the satellites. One of the buildings at the Oak Ridge complex was/is about 1/2 mile long, and there are many other buildings all around it. Looking back at the "evidence" presented to the UN by Colin Powell showed a few small buildings that just weren't big enough to house a refining operation, even using modern techniques. I just wish I knew that at the time. *OK, 10% of the electric grid in the 1940s, but still, that's a lot of juice. |
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