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Yet another killer arrested.
Lorry driver in custody after cowardly fleeing the scene.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason"
linked this:- http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home "Colin Rae, 83, of Whiteclosegate, died after his pedal bike collided with a lorry" I wonder if we will find out if this assertion is true, or whether the newspaper is putting out biased information. Did the bike collide with the lorry, or did the lorry collide with the bike? Why can't the paper say that the bike and lorry, or the lorry and bike, collided? That formulation does not seek to place responsibility for the collision on anyone. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote: Lorry driver in custody after cowardly fleeing the scene. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home I know that you are a ****wit and ignorant in most matters - I must assume that you do not know what standard police practice is. What makes you say that the driver was cowardly? If the cyclist ran in to the lorry ("his pedal bike collided with a lorry") there is no reason why the lorry driver should even have known about it. Lorries are big - didn't you know? PS He is *not* in custody - I assume that you also do not understand what "placed on police bail" means. Anyway - many thanks for your continued efforts to confirm that cycling is dangerous - much appreciated. -- Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so cannot be of any consequence. (Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever) |
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Yet another killer arrested.
"JMS" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100, "Simon Mason" wrote: Lorry driver in custody after cowardly fleeing the scene. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home I know that you are a ****wit and ignorant in most matters - I must assume that you do not know what standard police practice is. What makes you say that the driver was cowardly? If the cyclist ran in to the lorry ("his pedal bike collided with a lorry") there is no reason why the lorry driver should even have known about it. Lorries are big - didn't you know? Ah yes. The apologist for Carl Baxter who asserted that there was no evidence that he deliberately reversed his car into a young girl and her father until a BBC report proved he had. Then you complained that we had unfairly swapped sources and proved you wrong. PS He is *not* in custody - I assume that you also do not understand what "placed on police bail" means. At some time in the legal process he will have been in police custody. -- Simon Mason http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/ |
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Yet another killer arrested.
i totally agree with your sentiment expressed here .
BUT There is absolutely no point in bemoaning this "phraseology in frequent use in reporting such incidents. Write or email the source ot he repot. berate the pess -- often local press don't shout about it on here shout it into the "'earholes" of the newspapers it is no use doing it on newsgroups -- cos none of any "push" ever sees it -- only a few sad folk. i have broken my self imposed rule to stop posting here and on the censored urcm but i do continue to visit.both groups I find it a strange it is strange that they both mirror each other in believing that what is posted is of some import. I am enough of a GOM ( Grumpy Old Man) not to care about establishing a presence. but I do thik quite seriously about reports like these And it does hurt my inherent sense of "rightness" ( not rightchesness! sp?) so to get back towards the point -- don't "howl" on here -- well yes you will --- but hit the perpetraters of this "biased" reportage -- not here! -- From Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk "David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason" linked this:- http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home "Colin Rae, 83, of Whiteclosegate, died after his pedal bike collided with a lorry" I wonder if we will find out if this assertion is true, or whether the newspaper is putting out biased information. Did the bike collide with the lorry, or did the lorry collide with the bike? Why can't the paper say that the bike and lorry, or the lorry and bike, collided? That formulation does not seek to place responsibility for the collision on anyone. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:52:01 +0100, David Hansen
wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason" linked this:- http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home "Colin Rae, 83, of Whiteclosegate, died after his pedal bike collided with a lorry" I wonder if we will find out if this assertion is true, or whether the newspaper is putting out biased information. Did the bike collide with the lorry, or did the lorry collide with the bike? Why can't the paper say that the bike and lorry, or the lorry and bike, collided? That formulation does not seek to place responsibility for the collision on anyone. Well that would not be fair - as surely you and the other psycholists want to put the blame squarely on the driver - see Mason's other rants on his "reports" -- Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so cannot be of any consequence. (Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever) |
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On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:54:22 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote: "JMS" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100, "Simon Mason" wrote: Lorry driver in custody after cowardly fleeing the scene. http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...errerPath=home I know that you are a ****wit and ignorant in most matters - I must assume that you do not know what standard police practice is. What makes you say that the driver was cowardly? If the cyclist ran in to the lorry ("his pedal bike collided with a lorry") there is no reason why the lorry driver should even have known about it. Lorries are big - didn't you know? Ah yes. The apologist for Carl Baxter who asserted that there was no evidence that he deliberately reversed his car into a young girl and her father until a BBC report proved he had. Then you complained that we had unfairly swapped sources and proved you wrong. ffs : "BBC report proved he had" Is that the only "proof" you can offer. Yes - I am sorry that I had to correct you on that and show that most of what you said was unmitigated ****e - and at the best speculation. Was he convicted of attempted murder? No he was convicted of dangerous driving and unlawfully causing grievous bodily harm. Feel free to report the actual "evidence" that was presented to the court If he had - it would have been pre-meditated - ie attempted murder. Was he found guilty of attempted murder? PS you need to look up the word apologist PPS How many drivers in Hull have faulty headlamps? -- Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so cannot be of any consequence. (Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever) |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:30:59 +0100 someone who may be "Trevor A
Panther" wrote this:- There is absolutely no point in bemoaning this "phraseology in frequent use in reporting such incidents. Write or email the source ot he repot. I disagree. Making the point here broadens the number of people who might contact the source of a report in their local area. You have no idea whether I take the trouble to contact sources of these reports in my local area. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Oct 15, 3:36*pm, JMS wrote:
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:52:01 +0100, David Hansen wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:02:10 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason" linked this:- http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/cy...collision-with.... "Colin Rae, 83, of Whiteclosegate, died after his pedal bike collided with a lorry" I wonder if we will find out if this assertion is true, or whether the newspaper is putting out biased information. Did the bike collide with the lorry, or did the lorry collide with the bike? Why can't the paper say that the bike and lorry, or the lorry and bike, collided? That formulation does not seek to place responsibility for the collision on anyone. Well that would not be fair - as surely you and the other psycholists want to put the blame squarely on the driver - see Mason's other rants on his "reports" -- * * * Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... *and *so cannot be of any consequence. (Simon Mason - *who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever) Just another example of blaming the vulnerable victim, probably because all the parties are motorists. |
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Yet another killer arrested.
On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 13:54:22 +0100 someone who may be "Simon Mason"
wrote this:- The apologist for Carl Baxter who asserted that there was no evidence that he deliberately reversed his car into a young girl and her father until a BBC report proved he had. He claimed that he had no idea that there was or might be a child in a child trailer. It is possible he is that thick I suppose. "Baxter said outside the court: "I had never seen a trailer like that before. There was no sign to say a child was in it. I panicked. I would give anything for it not to have happened."" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1421135/Road-rage-driver-reversed-over-child-in-bicycle-buggy.html Even if the pathetic little man was telling the truth why did he panic? Is he so insecure that he panics because a much older man has remonstrated with him, imagines that the trailer is full of armed men who are going to rush out and attack him, so he is justified in reversing over older man, bike and trailer. Sounds unlikely, sounds more likely that he wanted to "teach the dammed cyclist a lesson, how dare he remonstrate about my perfect driving, I missed him and his toy didn't I?" -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54 |
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