pedestrian rage

"Andy Leighton" wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 03:12:07 -0700 (PDT),
Derek C wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:57 am, bugbear wrote:
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

BugBear

Serves the driver right for stopping on a pedestrian crossing! However
it is not always possible to avoid doing so in traffic, and if the
traffic was stationary,

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic. Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

Judging by the sheer number of drivers who don't know how to use a box
junction, leaving a gap might be a bit of a push.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 09:57:39 +0000
bugbear wrote:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

****s who don't leave crossings clear in nose-to-tail traffic really
**** me off too.

On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:10:41 -0500 someone who may be Andy Leighton
wrote this:-

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic.

Highway Code, Rule 192.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070339

Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

Certainly poor driving by the motorist, not that this justifies the
abuse.


--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54

On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 10:52:07 -0000 someone who may be "Simon Mason"
wrote this:-

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8486...icious_attack/

Must be a lie. The usual suspects imply that cyclists are always the
aggressor, not the victim.



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000...#pt3-pb3-l1g54

On 01/11/2010 10:20, Tony Raven wrote:

Derek wrote:

Serves the driver right for stopping on a pedestrian crossing! However
it is not always possible to avoid doing so in traffic, and if the
traffic was stationary, the pedestrian could have easily walked around
it without needing to attack the motorist and vandalise his car.

Easier said than done when you have a pushchair and two under-10's with
you.

The answer in such situations is to wait patiently, not to attack other
people (especially elderly people and children - I wonder how 'ard he'd have
felt if it had been me and my car?) and not to cause criminal damage.

Your "Easier said than..." comment is a transparent siding with a criminal
against the victim. What a surprise.

On 01/11/2010 10:52, Simon Mason wrote:

"bugbear" wrote in message
o.uk...
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

BugBear

A cycling related one.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8486...icious_attack/

Sheesh...

What is going on in this country?

On 01/11/2010 11:10, Andy Leighton wrote:
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 03:12:07 -0700 (PDT),
Derek wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:57 am, wrote:
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

BugBear

Serves the driver right for stopping on a pedestrian crossing! However
it is not always possible to avoid doing so in traffic, and if the
traffic was stationary,

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic. Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

In theory, that is true. In practice, it often happens that traffic in front
starts to move then stops suddenly.

On 01/11/2010 13:14, David Hansen wrote:
On Mon, 01 Nov 2010 06:10:41 -0500 someone who may be Andy Leighton
wrote this:-

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic.

Highway Code, Rule 192.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070339

Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

Certainly poor driving by the motorist, not that this justifies the
abuse.

"Abuse"?

There was a *crime* committed.

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 01/11/2010 11:10, Andy Leighton wrote:
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 03:12:07 -0700 (PDT),
Derek wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:57 am, wrote:
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

BugBear

Serves the driver right for stopping on a pedestrian crossing! However
it is not always possible to avoid doing so in traffic, and if the
traffic was stationary,

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic. Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

In theory, that is true. In practice, it often happens that traffic in
front starts to move then stops suddenly.

To solve that "problem" you simply wait until there is a full car's length
of space beyond the crossing before moving at all, like drivers do at box
junctions.


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

On 01/11/2010 14:27, Simon Mason wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 01/11/2010 11:10, Andy Leighton wrote:
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 03:12:07 -0700 (PDT),
Derek wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:57 am, wrote:
http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/road_rag...rwich_1_713506

BugBear

Serves the driver right for stopping on a pedestrian crossing! However
it is not always possible to avoid doing so in traffic, and if the
traffic was stationary,

And there I was thinking that you should keep the crossing clear in
queuing traffic. Very easy to do that by not moving forwards until
you can see that there is space on the other side.

In theory, that is true. In practice, it often happens that traffic in
front starts to move then stops suddenly.

To solve that "problem" you simply wait until there is a full car's length of
space beyond the crossing before moving at all, like drivers do at box
junctions.

The problem has two dimensions: human nature and optimism.

However, it wouldn't matter if a driver deliberately broke the rules and
moved up every time there was a couple of inches to spare. It wouldn't
justify damaging his property, as I'm sure you'd be among the first to
recognise, on reflection.