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Paul Boyd wrote: Mike Causer said the following on 03/04/2006 14:10: Here's a new variation on the theme of making life difficult for cyclists, and this time it's in the photo gallery offered by Cycling England -- http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...2&pic=184&sf=0 Mike How about this for a smart idea? http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...9&pic=141&sf=0 seems better than not excluding cycles from the one-way restriction. At least it isn't a shared use pavement http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...9&pic=144&sf=0 shows why perhaps it isn't! Shirley shows why it is a perfectly feasible idea. I might have opted to cycle further out to force the oncoming traffic to stop but it is not obvious that this is not what has happened anyway. This could cause problems for a novice cyclist I happen to know that http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...&pic=169&sf=30 is definitely not a happy place to be cycling - just behind the camera cars turn left across across both the bus lane and the cycle lane. That ped in the red jacket most certainly should not be where he is - in fact, how and why did he get there? I presume it is that ring road in bristol that goes across the end of whatever the M32 ends up being (with the M32 behind the camera). Not sure where the ped might be heading or /why/he ended up there but there is not any reason why he /should/ not be there. I can imagine the road could be intimidating to cycle on at times but from picture I would say this wasn't one of them Is this all meant to reassure the general public that lots of things are being done to make cycling safer? best wishes james |
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dkahn400 wrote:
http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...2&pic=184&sf=0 That is without doubt the most evil-looking (official) barrier I've ever seen. It should to be taken down quickly, before someone is very seriously injured. It is so bad I'm having trouble convincing myself it's unintentional. Some kind of malicious practical joke by an anti-cycling engineer perhaps. What other rational explanation could there be? Maybe it's just me. Does anyone here think I'm over-stating the case? No. Meet that unexpectedly in the dark, when your feeble lights illuminate only the two retroreflectors on the support posts... R. |
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However, it is a nice wide lane, it doesn't have to share with buses, it has
taken road space from car traffic not pedestrians ... the real issue is how to deal with the left turns across it. "Paul Boyd" wrote in message ... snip I happen to know that http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...&pic=169&sf=30 is definitely not a happy place to be cycling - just behind the camera cars turn left across across both the bus lane and the cycle lane. That ped in the red jacket most certainly should not be where he is - in fact, how and why did he get there? Is this all meant to reassure the general public that lots of things are being done to make cycling safer? -- Paul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ |
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in message , Simon Bennett
') wrote: dkahn400 wrote: What other rational explanation could there be? Maybe it's just me. Does anyone here think I'm over-stating the case? I must admit, it looks pretty odd. And those reflectors; they are not indicating the narrowest points of the passage at all! Could lead to some nasty night-time njuries. I honestly don't understand what the designers are trying to achieve? While I agree they're dangerous, I just don't see what the point is. What's worrying is the it looks as if Cycling England actually approve of these. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ ; ... of course nothing said here will be taken notice of by ; the W3C. The official place to be ignored is on www-style or ; www-html. -- George Lund |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 14:10:54 +0100, Mike Causer
wrote: Here's a new variation on the theme of making life difficult for cyclists, and this time it's in the photo gallery offered by Cycling England -- http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...2&pic=184&sf=0 Here's an example of a place where cyclists turning left do not have to stop at lights. http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...=5&pic=83&sf=0 A few more of those and the critics who say that cyclists always ignore red lights may at last start to be silenced. |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:16:44 +0100, Tom Crispin wrote:
Here's an example of a place where cyclists turning left do not have to stop at lights. http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...=5&pic=83&sf=0 On the face of it, that Keep Left bollard applies to all traffic, even those too wide to fit.... Mike |
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"Mike Causer" wrote in message newsan.2006.04.03.13.10.53.508454@firstnamelastn ame.com.invalid... Here's a new variation on the theme of making life difficult for cyclists, and this time it's in the photo gallery offered by Cycling England -- http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...2&pic=184&sf=0 Mike The photo is credited to a Gordon Maclay - who used to be the cycling officer for Harrogate Borough Council (I think he's left). It does look kind of awful. On the other hand, it does look wheelchair accessible... Peter |
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dkahn400 wrote:
Tony Raven wrote: I have a vision of the paddles whomping the cyclist, TombRaider stylee, as they cycle through. Actually they made me think of the old Lemmings computer game. A blocker cyclist is needed to make all the cyclists behind him ride round in circles until ramp-building cyclists have constructed a safe way over the barrier. Anyone trying to ride through gets squished as the paddles slam together. They made me think you'd get a free dose of electro-convulsive therapy as you passed through. Also, on the caption, they appear to have made a typographical mess of "Narrow gate". JimP -- Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. - DNA |
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On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:16:44 +0100 someone who may be Tom Crispin
wrote this:- Here's an example of a place where cyclists turning left do not have to stop at lights. http://www.cyclingengland.co.uk/imag...=5&pic=83&sf=0 There does not appear to be a line for motorists to stop at. Are they exempt, or is this one of the early York ASLs where there is a separate traffic light for motorists? -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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dkahn400 wrote: Actually they made me think of the old Lemmings computer game. A blocker cyclist is needed to make all the cyclists behind him ride round in circles until ramp-building cyclists have constructed a safe way over the barrier. Anyone trying to ride through gets squished as the paddles slam together. You mean like this? http://www.sayagain.co.uk/b3tapix/images/chopper.gif peter |
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