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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra Amsterdam Royal 8?
Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter
bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? I don't think I am getting much credit for the stock parts I am rejecting (in favor of my spec'ed parts). I want to use the same pedals as I am currently using on my folder, so I can wear the same bike shoes, whichever bike I decide to ride that day. Is that Brooks saddle price a bit high? I think I want to go wider tire in back, narrower tire in front, because of the weight distribution. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amsterdam Royal 8 -- $850 Shimano M520 clipless pedals (comes with cleats) -- $55 Brooks B17 Black Champion Flyer w/steel rails and copper rivets -- $145 Pletscher 2 leg kickstand (silver or black?) -- $56.88 Ergon GP1 grips Men's large -- $42 Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700 x 35? 37? -- 2 x $45.87 = $91.74 Subtotal -- $1240.62 25% discount off swapped items (pedals, saddle, kickstand, grips and tires) Subtotal after discount -- $1142.97 Tax -- $102.87 Total -- $1245.84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for any info - J. |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra Amsterdam Royal 8?
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"Jay" wrote: Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? I don't think I am getting much credit for the stock parts I am rejecting (in favor of my spec'ed parts). I want to use the same pedals as I am currently using on my folder, so I can wear the same bike shoes, whichever bike I decide to ride that day. Is that Brooks saddle price a bit high? I think I want to go wider tire in back, narrower tire in front, because of the weight distribution. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amsterdam Royal 8 -- $850 Shimano M520 clipless pedals (comes with cleats) -- $55 Brooks B17 Black Champion Flyer w/steel rails and copper rivets -- $145 Pletscher 2 leg kickstand (silver or black?) -- $56.88 Ergon GP1 grips Men's large -- $42 Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700 x 35? 37? -- 2 x $45.87 = $91.74 Subtotal -- $1240.62 25% discount off swapped items (pedals, saddle, kickstand, grips and tires) Subtotal after discount -- $1142.97 Tax -- $102.87 Total -- $1245.84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for any info - J. Well, they're throwing in the labor of swapping pedals, seat, kickstand, grips, and tires for free. That ought to figure into your equation. The 25% discount is probably a reasonable maximum, considering how much they will get for the OEM take-off parts. I tend not to give most LBSen much stick for their pricing. If you are concerned about the cost, well, more pricing information about the Brooks B17 Champion Flyer can be found on the Web. It's more than Harris charges, for example, but they stock and specialize in those saddles. I guess what I'm saying is that they're not egregiously ripping you off. Only you can decide if what they're offering is worth the price. -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls." "In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them." |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra AmsterdamRoyal 8?
Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article , "Jay" wrote: Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? I don't think I am getting much credit for the stock parts I am rejecting (in favor of my spec'ed parts). I want to use the same pedals as I am currently using on my folder, so I can wear the same bike shoes, whichever bike I decide to ride that day. Is that Brooks saddle price a bit high? I think I want to go wider tire in back, narrower tire in front, because of the weight distribution. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amsterdam Royal 8 -- $850 Shimano M520 clipless pedals (comes with cleats) -- $55 Brooks B17 Black Champion Flyer w/steel rails and copper rivets -- $145 Pletscher 2 leg kickstand (silver or black?) -- $56.88 Ergon GP1 grips Men's large -- $42 Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700 x 35? 37? -- 2 x $45.87 = $91.74 Subtotal -- $1240.62 25% discount off swapped items (pedals, saddle, kickstand, grips and tires) Subtotal after discount -- $1142.97 Tax -- $102.87 Total -- $1245.84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for any info - J. Well, they're throwing in the labor of swapping pedals, seat, kickstand, grips, and tires for free. That ought to figure into your equation. The 25% discount is probably a reasonable maximum, considering how much they will get for the OEM take-off parts. I tend not to give most LBSen much stick for their pricing. If you are concerned about the cost, well, more pricing information about the Brooks B17 Champion Flyer can be found on the Web. It's more than Harris charges, for example, but they stock and specialize in those saddles. I guess what I'm saying is that they're not egregiously ripping you off. Only you can decide if what they're offering is worth the price. Agreed. I seriously doubt that Rapid Transit is gouging Jay. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra AmsterdamRoyal 8?
On Mar 1, 12:28*am, "Jay" wrote:
Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? I don't think I am getting much credit for the stock parts I am rejecting (in favor of my spec'ed parts). I want to use the same pedals as I am currently using on my folder, so I can wear the same bike shoes, whichever bike I decide to ride that day. Is that Brooks saddle price a bit high? I think I want to go wider tire in back, narrower tire in front, because of the weight distribution. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amsterdam Royal 8 -- $850 Shimano M520 clipless pedals (comes with cleats) -- $55 Brooks B17 Black Champion Flyer w/steel rails and copper rivets -- $145 Pletscher 2 leg kickstand (silver or black?) -- $56.88 Ergon GP1 grips Men's large -- $42 Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700 x 35? 37? -- 2 x $45.87 = $91.74 Subtotal -- $1240.62 25% discount off swapped items (pedals, saddle, kickstand, grips and tires) Subtotal after discount -- $1142.97 Tax -- $102.87 Total -- $1245.84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for any info - J. Around 1250 USD is around 850 Euro. For that in Dutch city bikes in The Netherlands you get onto the bottom step of the elite class of bikes. Though the parts of say a Gazelle will be most pleasing, that price doesn't include a Brooks saddle or Ergon grips or special pedals. Seems like you're getting good value for your money, given only that the Electra Amsterdam is well made. I have 700x37 Marathon Plus on my Gazelle and the very similar Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase on my Trek. It's not a fat tyre in any sense of the word; you inflate the hell out of them for hybrid tyres, or I do anyway, so you get a pretty skinny rolling patch. I wouldn't go for smaller at the front; I think that's just looking for odd handling. HTH. Andre Jute Little old intellectual on a bike -- please drive considerately |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra AmsterdamRoyal 8?
On Feb 29, 6:28 pm, "Jay" wrote:
Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? I don't think I am getting much credit for the stock parts I am rejecting (in favor of my spec'ed parts). I want to use the same pedals as I am currently using on my folder, so I can wear the same bike shoes, whichever bike I decide to ride that day. Is that Brooks saddle price a bit high? I think I want to go wider tire in back, narrower tire in front, because of the weight distribution. +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Amsterdam Royal 8 -- $850 Shimano M520 clipless pedals (comes with cleats) -- $55 Brooks B17 Black Champion Flyer w/steel rails and copper rivets -- $145 Pletscher 2 leg kickstand (silver or black?) -- $56.88 Ergon GP1 grips Men's large -- $42 Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700 x 35? 37? -- 2 x $45.87 = $91.74 Subtotal -- $1240.62 25% discount off swapped items (pedals, saddle, kickstand, grips and tires) Subtotal after discount -- $1142.97 Tax -- $102.87 Total -- $1245.84 +++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks for any info - J. I purchased my most dear city bike at Rapid Transit and have nothing but good things to say about them. Even if they're 25% more than the competition (they're not), the service is worth it. I dare to say that they'd get Sheldon approval. I remember rolling in one day for a pair of fresh grips and as I'm browsing the selection, I glance behind me and see a wrench crimping a cable end onto a bare wire on my bike-- without even asking--very neighborly. Ha! They're the kind of shop that can build you what you need if you come in with a rusty spoke that you think is particularly handsome. Tell 'em hi from Max who used to work at the old Artful Dodger. |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra Amsterdam Royal 8?
"Jay" wrote in message . .. Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger on this purchase. RTC says they will have the bike in ~ 2 weeks. I know now, this is the bike I should have bought two years ago, instead of my BF folder. But there was really no way to have known that at the time. Thanks to the RBT bike experts, I have a much better idea, what a year-round Chicago bike commuter needs. And I have experienced 1st hand, daily maintenance of an exposed derailleur system. The cold, for me, is not a limiting factor. It is the salt/sand/crud. And a folding bike, generally speaking, is not intended for a 210lb rider, + 30lb cargo. I only found out recently, BF is mostly selling folding toys to retired people, who want to fold their bike, and then jet to a vacation in a national park. Not serious year-round bike commuters in the northern plains, the heartland. J. |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra AmsterdamRoyal 8?
Jay wrote:
"Jay" wrote in message . .. Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger on this purchase. RTC says they will have the bike in ~ 2 weeks. This is a memorable moment. ;-) Lou |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra Amsterdam Royal 8?
"Lou Holtman" wrote in message .. . Jay wrote: "Jay" wrote in message . .. Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger on this purchase. RTC says they will have the bike in ~ 2 weeks. This is a memorable moment. ;-) Lou I certainly agree, Lou; RBT regulars might want to mark their digital calendars, for 1-Mar-2008. Jay has begun his 'faux-Dutch-bike' era. And as everyone knows by now, I tend to share pics of my cycling experience. But not just crummy snapshot cell-phone pics. I fuss over my digital camera pics, even though they sometimes appear to be orphan Internet dreg. I am working on that. I certainly need proper studio lighting, already discussed. And maybe an Electra studio backdrop? But I fear, I am no where near their target customer, also already discussed. Electra seems to target Hollywood customers, based on their online catalog. I am still pining for Andre's authentic Dutch bike. If the USD ever recovers, perhaps I will be able to afford one. But now, I feel I need to settle for a CA bike. Much like years ago, wine lovers had to settle for CA wine, because French wine was just too pricey. J. |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra AmsterdamRoyal 8?
Jay wrote:
"Lou Holtman" wrote in message .. . Jay wrote: "Jay" wrote in message . .. Welcome to the latest installment of 'Jay's all-weather Chicago commuter bike'. Here is the quote I have received from Rapid Transit Cycleshop. Is this a fair price? Thanks guys, I pulled the trigger on this purchase. RTC says they will have the bike in ~ 2 weeks. This is a memorable moment. ;-) Lou I certainly agree, Lou; RBT regulars might want to mark their digital calendars, for 1-Mar-2008. Jay has begun his 'faux-Dutch-bike' era. And as everyone knows by now, I tend to share pics of my cycling experience. But not just crummy snapshot cell-phone pics. I fuss over my digital camera pics, even though they sometimes appear to be orphan Internet dreg. I am working on that. I certainly need proper studio lighting, already discussed. And maybe an Electra studio backdrop? But I fear, I am no where near their target customer, also already discussed. Electra seems to target Hollywood customers, based on their online catalog. I am still pining for Andre's authentic Dutch bike. If the USD ever recovers, perhaps I will be able to afford one. But now, I feel I need to settle for a CA bike. Much like years ago, wine lovers had to settle for CA wine, because French wine was just too pricey. J. I come over in September. Shall I bring one with me? Dutch bikes are so boring over here. ;-) Lou |
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Is $1,200 USD a fair price for a customized Electra Amsterdam Royal 8?
"Lou Holtman" wrote in message .. . I come over in September. Shall I bring one with me? Dutch bikes are so boring over here. ;-) Lou My friend LO says Dutch bikes are considered appliances. That is what I want. A boring thing that gets me to/from work, and the grocery store, whatever. I do not enjoy bike maintenance. I am building a stable of bikes. I may never buy another car. Long, boring story. J. |
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