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Riding SIF for Distance
I was just wondering if anyone has ridden SIF for any major distance. This kind of ties in with Ultimate Wheels that seem to be getting more attention lately and also as a skill builder. I eventually want to get or build and Ultimate wheel. I often try to ride SIF for a maximum distance but my legs get so tired after only about an eight of a mile. Do the legs actually work that hard to keep you balanced when not sitting on the saddle? Keep in mind that I am quite comfortable riding SIF and don't feel that I am fighting for balance. Unicorn -- Unicorn Keep your eyes on the stars and your feet on the pedals, and you will accomplish great feats! 'The Unicycling Commune' (http://tinyurl.com/3xkd8d) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unicorn's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12801 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Riding SIF for Distance
Unicorn wrote: I was just wondering if anyone has ridden SIF for any major distance. This kind of ties in with Ultimate Wheels that seem to be getting more attention lately and also as a skill builder. I eventually want to get or build and Ultimate wheel. I often try to ride SIF for a maximum distance but my legs get so tired after only about an eight of a mile. Do the legs actually work that hard to keep you balanced when not sitting on the saddle? Keep in mind that I am quite comfortable riding SIF and don't feel that I am fighting for balance. Unicorn Well, in the usual sort of combat situation I would argue it to be unsafe to ride SIF for any length of time. What if you're being attacked by a Lebanese soldier, armed with a pogo-stick? You will need that extra bit of time to grab your MG, aim, and by the time you're ready to shoot him with a grin on your face he triumphantly knocks you off your muni with his pogo-stick... Oh, and going to war on an ultimate wheel sounds like a pretty bad idea to me too. -- munirocks I am Christian but I ride for myself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ munirocks's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16564 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Unicorn wrote: Do the legs actually work that hard to keep you balanced when not sitting on the saddle? No, they work that hard to hold you up while they're bent. That's what wears them out so fast. Standing up taller and working on a more efficient technique will help, but it'll always be a lot more work than sitting down. Remember all that advice to put your weight on the seat when learning? That's a great reminder of why! -- johnfoss John Foss Email: "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com ----------------------------------------------- Man with broken collar bone say: "Have you checked your shoelaces lately?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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johnfoss wrote: No, they work that hard to hold you up while they're bent. That's what wears them out so fast. Standing up taller and working on a more efficient technique will help, but it'll always be a lot more work than sitting down. Remember all that advice to put your weight on the seat when learning? That's a great reminder of why! I thought that for a while too, but I think it's not as tiring to walk a similar distance with your legs bent to the same average amount. There must be another factor. -- Klaas Bil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Klaas Bil's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3442 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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The other factor is the pedals going around and around. I think walking is less energy-intensive with bent legs because the walking surface is constant. With pedals your legs are constantly going through the rotations from a not-so-bent to a very-bent position. I think that makes up the difference. -- johnfoss John Foss Email: "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" -- www.unicycling.com ----------------------------------------------- Man with broken collar bone say: "Have you checked your shoelaces lately?" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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It's probably the combination. Just feet going round is not tiring either as light unicycling demonstrates. Going from not-so-bent to very-bent and back -while under load -is probably what makes it tiring. It becomes clearer if two legs work simultaneously. Imagine standing a few minutes with moderately bent legs. That may not be comfortable, but it's totally doable. Now, while standing, go though a range of vertical motion of about a foot (twice crank length) with a frequency of, say, 100 rpm (or whatever is your cadence on an UW or with SIF). More tiring, right? I think that insofar riding an UW or uni SIF is even more tiring than that last exercise, it must be attributed to lack of skill on the UW or riding SIF. -- Klaas Bil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Klaas Bil's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3442 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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I think doing that and/or just standing up is a good way of increasing endurance and skill w/ a limited amount of time. If you have a countdown timer on your watch set it for a couple of minutes and each time it goes off ride 10 revolutions SIF. When that gets easy, do 20, 30, 40, etc revs before sitting back down or reduce the time interval. johnfoss wrote: With pedals your legs are constantly going through the rotations from a not-so-bent to a very-bent position. Also you are always applying force to the pedals. When walking your legs get a nice break each time you pick up a foot. -- skilewis74 Ride everywhere and never just ride anywhere. If you can ride where you are going within a hour, do it, and if you can do a trick 50-75% of the time do it along the way.- Bob Burnquist What next? 'IUF skill levels' (http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/levels/)*' Street' (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/The_Unicyclopedia/Street)*'unicycletips.com' (http://unicycletips.com/)*'Trials class system' (http://tinyurl.com/yqpvxk)*'Trials Building' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64235) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ skilewis74's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12404 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Interesting thoughts. It does seem as if your legs are always "concentrating on reading the ground" much more when riding SIF. Maybe trying to stand up straiter or concentrating on keeping your legs less streched will help. How far has anyone ridden on an UW or SIF? Unicorn -- Unicorn Keep your eyes on the stars and your feet on the pedals, and you will accomplish great feats! 'The Unicycling Commune' (http://tinyurl.com/3xkd8d) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unicorn's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12801 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Because of my trials saddle being super slim, I often ride SIF for brief spells to get circulation going. I'm sure that distance riders on long ride start to numb up (may take a lot longer than me), and a minute or two in SIF can get things working again. I wouldn't ride SIF any longer than that however because, as mentioned above, it takes more effort to keep on going. -- Danni ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Danni's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12990 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Yesterday night I tried riding SIF while trying to keep my legs as strait as possipleand my body as stretched out and tall as I could. This is not easy on a tials unicycle with a low saddle! Anyway it helped out quite a bit and I rode 30% farther than on any other attempt! However I must say that riding SIF for any amount of distance is a real workout. Unicorn -- Unicorn Keep your eyes on the stars and your feet on the pedals, and you will accomplish great feats! 'The Unicycling Commune' (http://tinyurl.com/3xkd8d) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unicorn's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12801 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/73096 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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