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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
The city of Vancouver Washington has the foresight to think of unicycles when proposing a mandatory helmet law that would cover kids as well as adults. We won't be able to scoot by this one claiming we're not defined as a bicycle and therefore not covered by the mandatory helmet law. Oh, the proposal passed. It goes in effect in 30 days. Here's the relevant part that mentions unicycles: AN ORDINANCE requiring helmets be used by all people when operating or riding on bicycles, skateboards, roller blades, roller skates, *unicycles* and scooters in a public area within the City of Vancouver; providing for savings, severability and an effective date. Here's a link to the 'council meeting agenda that covered it' (http://tinyurl.com/3dyfbs). The minutes for the meeting should be posted later. Here's a 'KGW TV news article' (http://tinyurl.com/2kd9rw) about it: Vancouver makes bike helmets mandatory, even for adults 12:53 PM PST on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 By ANTONIA GIEDWOYN, kgw.com Staff VANCOUVER, Wash. -- City leaders passed a new law requiring helmets to be used by all people riding bicycles in public areas within the city, including adults. The law also applies to those on skateboards, roller blades, roller skates, unicycles and scooters. It goes into effect in 30 days. Fines for breaking the helmet law will cost up to $50. The law includes a provision for the court to waive, reduce or suspend the penalty if the violator provides proof that he or she has acquired a helmet. ... -- john_childs john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com Team Never Wash Your Muni 'My Gallery' (http://tinyurl.com/3d57bn) :: 'Unicycling Bookmark List' (http://backcountry.unicyclist.com/) :: 'World Clock' (http://tinyurl.com/2blym3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
How much government regulation can you stand? It’s a slippery slope. We have a bike helmet law here in Ontario, but it only applies to kids under 16 or 18. I don’t know if I agree with it or not. I don’t know if the law includes unis. We have free medical care in Canada so I suppose the government has a right to try to keep the cost of providing ‘elective brain surgery’ down, but where does it stop? Sometimes the motive for these motherhood laws is a knee-jerk response to a tragic accident and some politician decrees to “do something about it” and gain some political mileage out of it. (I’m so cynical.) More hospital money and lives would probably be saved if people can be legislated to wear sunscreen while on their bikes or unis, but of course, that can’t be easily policed on the roads, and the politicians can’t point and say…’look what we’ve done.’ There is also a law in the works to outlaw smoking in a car that has kids under 16 in it. I have mixed feelings about that one too. My dad smoked like a chimney around me as a kid. I turned out ok. I don’t smoke. My 2 cents! -- BurnerDave Dave This is me, this is my video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=cz62gzgdGos ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BurnerDave's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16005 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
Skateboards!? Thats a tough one to enforce. -- lpounds Levi ------------------------------------------------------------------------ lpounds's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/15958 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
They should better regulate really dangerous things like weapons in the US, instead of such silly things like wearing helmets on bicycles or any other non-motorized vehicles. -- hugo hugo qu-ax luxus schwarz / black 20\" no-name chrome 24\" anfänger seit / beginner since 24. dec 2007 - wer schreibfehler findet, darf sie behalten / if you find typos, just keep them - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hugo's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/16527 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
hugo wrote: They should better regulate really dangerous things like cars in the US, instead of such silly things like wearing helmets on bicycles or any other non-motorized vehicles. FIFY. -- harper -Greg Harper *jc is the only main man. there can be no other.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ harper's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/426 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
I don't see any difference between this and a seatbelt law. I do hope that it's not abused as a way to target skaters, however, because I really doubt skaters will start wearing helmets. Also, they should provide vouchers for people who can't afford helmets and need their bike to get to work if they are going to make this law. I will say this, when I was a kid growing up in Iowa I wanted their to be a helmet law so I wouldn't be made fun of for wearing my helmet when riding to elementary school and junior high. After a few days I stopped wearing one. -- Seager 'The GreyMatter Jugglers' (http://www.greymatterjugglers.com) | 'Team RoadShow' (http://www.teamroadshow.com) | 'Unexpected Failure Productions' (http://www.unexpectedfailure.com) | 'Moab' (http://tinyurl.com/9fxuv) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seager's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8840 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
Also, what I would like to see is a bicycle light law. As someone who sometimes drives I'm sick of almost hitting bikers at night who don't have lights. I'm very aware of bikes because I commute almost 100 miles a week - but even I almost hit bikers every time I drive at night around here because they won't light themselves up. A night biker without a light is a severe road hazard. -- Seager 'The GreyMatter Jugglers' (http://www.greymatterjugglers.com) | 'Team RoadShow' (http://www.teamroadshow.com) | 'Unexpected Failure Productions' (http://www.unexpectedfailure.com) | 'Moab' (http://tinyurl.com/9fxuv) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Seager's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/8840 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
Seager wrote: Also, what I would like to see is a bicycle light law. As someone who sometimes drives I'm sick of almost hitting bikers at night who don't have lights. I'm very aware of bikes because I commute almost 100 miles a week - but even I almost hit bikers every time I drive at night around here because they won't light themselves up. A night biker without a light is a severe road hazard. Lighter fluid, a polyester shirt, and a match would work well as an inexpensive substitute. -- harper -Greg Harper *jc is the only main man. there can be no other.* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ harper's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/426 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
The local unicycle lobby was asleep at the switch on this one, I wonder if any of the affected groups were aware this was coming down. There seems to be a group think that if wheels are involved, a hemet must be required safety equipment. Doesn't matter what the equipment is or level of the risk as long as there are wheels. A few years back our club was doing a show at the Seattle Center, our MC/Announcer had to be back in the audience because that is where the sound board and microphone were. He had many come up to him asking/chastising the group for not having helmets for regular riding and freestyle skills; we did wear helmets for the Trials segment. Comments like that was something new, before then no one had complained. I do wear a helmet for Trials, Muni, and any riding where there is a potential interaction with vehicles, but otherwise not. I still say normal riding is about as dangerous as jogging. I think we should lobby for mandatory helmets for joggers, now that would get some peoples' attention. -- UniBrier Steve Hop Drop & Roll “If something is to hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit and your unicycle and we'll go inside and watch TV.” – Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UniBrier's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1404 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Special mention of unicycles in mandatory helmet proposal
Seager wrote: Also, what I would like to see is a bicycle light law. I believe that is already the law. Any vehicle, even human powered, are required to have lights if operating on a roadway after dusk. -- UniBrier Steve Hop Drop & Roll “If something is to hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit and your unicycle and we'll go inside and watch TV.” – Homer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UniBrier's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1404 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/68052 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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