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Will the Global Plunge make people plunge into bikes?
"Tom Keats" wrote in message ... In article , "Jack May" writes: "ComandanteBanana" wrote in message ... On Oct 8, 12:41 pm, Pat wrote: I know you're on the payroll of Big Oil to try to get people to not use bike and to use more cars, but finally you're getting that point through precisely and you should be commented for it. With tha IQ of yours you must be voting for McCain, right? He's for drilling and if drilling doesn't cut, then he'll invade Venezuela or something, right? You by far have the lowest IQ in this newsgroup and have nothing of value to contribute Hey, Technocracy Boy -- you 'n CommandanteBanana are a match made in heave... Typical brain dead response of the lower class losers like you who have no capability to accomplish anything in society. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
Jack May wrote:
We have a very strong energy policy in the US. We are depending of a lot of very smart, very rich people in the private economy to develop our future energy sources. Far more effective than Government bumbling around. Yup - those very smart, rich guys who were until recently running our credit, mortgage, and investment banking firms -- Rob Lindauer - Please change "att" to "sbc" for my real email address |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
On Oct 10, 5:22*pm, Rob Lindauer wrote:
Jack May wrote: We have a very strong energy policy in the US. *We are depending of a lot of very smart, very rich people in the private economy to develop our future energy sources. * Far more effective than Government bumbling around. Yup - those very smart, rich guys who were until recently running our credit, mortgage, and investment banking firms -- Rob Lindauer - Please change "att" to "sbc" for my real email address I sincerely believe we are being lead by very smart people... But they are only smart for themselves. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
On Oct 10, 4:46*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote: On Oct 9, 9:08*pm, Pat wrote: On Oct 9, 11:22*am, ComandanteBanana wrote: On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote: The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil. NEVER. *It's impossible. Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R & D. Now get on your bikes... "Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic necessities of life would be complete chaos. Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture. http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290 I can't believe I'm asking this, but what the heck. *Do you really believe that on some day in 2017 all of the oil wells will just go dry and we will have pumped the last gallon of oil out of the ground? Bam, it'll be done. *And if you believe that, do you believe that all of scientists and engineers and inventors of the world will stand there looking at the empty wells and saying "oops, we really should have planned for that" as all of the lights go out and all of the cars stop. That scenario is beyond comprehension, but is that really your view?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If there's a lesson to be learned from the program is NOT so much that a crisis will happen in 2017 or so, just that AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY! When you are not prepare for something or you stick your head in the sand, many things can happen, just like the current financial crisis, unforseen --but predictable-- a few months ago. And not just "running out of oil" but a terrorist attack in Saudi Arabia, or an oil embargo like the '70s, or a series of hurricanes, or China getting hungrier for oil and launching a war... Then America will be as prepared as the dinosaurs were for the asteroid. How nice it would be have leaders that worried about energy the way the worry about credit. And PREVENTION is better than R & D because is cheaper, so let those who want to bike do so --in a safe environment, not a jungle. Don't worry about a so-called lack of a energy policy. Do you realize that there's no FOOD policy !!!! There's no government agency -- at any level -- that is in charge of ensuring that there will be enough food. No food planning. No crop planning. Do centralized warehousing. No transportation planning. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. No one is encharged with making sure that there will be food in your local grocery store tomorrow, next week, next year, or in 2017. That should scare you. Of course, it might just be that centralized planning isn't needed for everything. Hmmmm. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
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Pat writes: Don't worry about a so-called lack of a energy policy. Do you realize that there's no FOOD policy !!!! That's left in the hands of (or has been handed-over to) Global Corporatism. Or is that Corporate Globalism? Anyways, the folks who said that a Global Economy (and we're all seeing how well that's working out) is good for everybody, are in charge of that. Anybody's national gov't might not have a food policy, but rest assured the current incarnation of Monsanto does. It's possibly in step with their biofuel policy. There's a food policy. It's just not socialized or capitalized. It's just underhandedly, globally monopolized. And condoned by governments, without citizens' say-so, and behind our backs, and hiding behind the apron-strings of Intellectual Property law. That's how Global Corporate "inventors" of GMO seed can claim ownership of a farmer's crops. In fact, they can claim "ownership" of anyone's DNA. Even yours, if it's useful to them. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
Pat in NY wrote:
[...] Don't worry about a so-called lack of a energy policy. Do you realize that there's no FOOD policy !!!! There's no government agency -- at any level -- that is in charge of ensuring that there will be enough food. No food planning. No crop planning. Do centralized warehousing. No transportation planning. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. No one is encharged with making sure that there will be food in your local grocery store tomorrow, next week, next year, or in 2017. That should scare you. Of course, it might just be that centralized planning isn't needed for everything. Hmmmm. There is a surplus of food in the world, yet a large portion of the world's population is malnourished, or even starving. Yep, the "free market" is doing a heck-of-a-job! -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the precipitate. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Pat in NY wrote: [...] Don't worry about a so-called lack of a energy policy. Do you realize that there's no FOOD policy !!!! There's no government agency -- at any level -- that is in charge of ensuring that there will be enough food. No food planning. No crop planning. Do centralized warehousing. No transportation planning. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. No one is encharged with making sure that there will be food in your local grocery store tomorrow, next week, next year, or in 2017. That should scare you. Of course, it might just be that centralized planning isn't needed for everything. Hmmmm. There is a surplus of food in the world, yet a large portion of the world's population is malnourished, or even starving. Yep, the "free market" is doing a heck-of-a-job! People who say that the free market is very effective usually have pot bellies. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
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"Amy Blankenship" writes: There is a surplus of food in the world, yet a large portion of the world's population is malnourished, or even starving. Yep, the "free market" is doing a heck-of-a-job! People who say that the free market is very effective usually have pot bellies. Where exactly /is/ this "free" market? Actually, where are these free market people w/ pot bellies? 'Cuz I'm hungry, and a li'l tenderloin would hit the spot. And liver & onions. cheers, Tom -- Nothing is safe from me. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
On Oct 10, 4:46*pm, ComandanteBanana
wrote: On Oct 9, 9:08*pm, Pat wrote: On Oct 9, 11:22*am, ComandanteBanana wrote: On Oct 8, 12:41*pm, Pat wrote: The good news is, of course, that we will NEVER run out of oil. NEVER. *It's impossible. Hey, you must change channels once a while. Fox News will only tell you the viewpoint of the lion. Remember this, SAVING IS CHEAPER THAN R & D. Now get on your bikes... "Oil Apocalypse" in Mega Disasater, History Channel The oil that runs our world won't last forever. The gap between supply and demand is ever-growing. Even without increasing our current rate of consumption we will empty the Earth's large but finite reservoirs in a relatively short time. Will alternative energy save us or is it already too late? What would happen to the world as we know it when our oil dependent industries come to a grinding halt? A worldwide depression is a certainty but a power struggle for the basic necessities of life would be complete chaos. Are we looking down the barrel of an OIL APOCALYPSE? This THE HISTORY CHANNEL® DVD paints a terrifying picture. http://store.aetv.com/html/product/i...html?id=108290 I can't believe I'm asking this, but what the heck. *Do you really believe that on some day in 2017 all of the oil wells will just go dry and we will have pumped the last gallon of oil out of the ground? Bam, it'll be done. *And if you believe that, do you believe that all of scientists and engineers and inventors of the world will stand there looking at the empty wells and saying "oops, we really should have planned for that" as all of the lights go out and all of the cars stop. That scenario is beyond comprehension, but is that really your view?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If there's a lesson to be learned from the program is NOT so much that a crisis will happen in 2017 or so, just that AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY! When you are not prepare for something or you stick your head in the sand, many things can happen, just like the current financial crisis, unforseen --but predictable-- a few months ago. To a supply-sider economics advocate - allowing energy prices to rise to curtail energy usage and economic growth is the *ideal* energy policy. Only those usages and types of growth that can afford the higher energy prices would continue consuming those forms of energy. Usages and growth which could not afford higher fossil fuel cost would have to switch to a lower cost energy source or risk elimination. That is as oil prices go higher - it will provide the economic foundation for rival energy forms to supplant it. If you are to believe in Adam Smith's economic paradigm out of the ashes of defeat comes the flames of rebirth. |
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AMERICA DOESN'T HAVE AN ENERGY POLICY!
"Pat" wrote in message ... Don't worry about a so-called lack of a energy policy. Do you realize that there's no FOOD policy !!!! There's no government agency -- at any level -- that is in charge of ensuring that there will be enough food. No food planning. No crop planning. Do centralized warehousing. No transportation planning. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. No one is encharged with making sure that there will be food in your local grocery store tomorrow, next week, next year, or in 2017. That should scare you. Of course, it might just be that centralized planning isn't needed for everything. Hmmmm. ----- Well, we didn't have a banking policy either and look where that got us. |
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