Unicon 14: Marathon results

Congrats Chuck and way to go Beau! It's good to see some local names up
in the rankings.


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phlegm wrote:
Congrats Chuck and way to go Beau! It's good to see some local names up
in the rankings.



I always wondered what people from California considered local. Isn't
San Diego(I think thats where Chuck is from right?) extremely far from
Santa Cruz/Bay Area?

P.S. I was just out in Santa Barbara and the weather was amazing, it
sucks to be back in VA with the humidity.

P.P.S. Richard Simmons was on my flight from Dulles to LAX, he is odd,
I got a picture.


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siafirede wrote:
I always wondered what people from California considered local. Isn't
San Diego(I think thats where Chuck is from right?) extremely far from
Santa Cruz/Bay Area?



Chuck is in school in SoCal, but I believe he's planning to move to the
Bay Area when he graduates. We've already adopted him.


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phlegm wrote:
Chuck is in school in SoCal, but I believe he's planning to move to the
Bay Area when he graduates. We've already adopted him.



Yeah, technically, Chuck is local right now, since he is living in
Cupertino and working at the sample little computer company as me.
(apple -- heard of it?)

corbin

EDIT: we also tried to get him to transfer to UC Santa Cruz


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corbin wrote:
Yeah, technically, Chuck is local right now, since he is living in
Cupertino and working at the sample little computer company as me.
(apple -- heard of it?)

corbin

EDIT: we also tried to get him to transfer to UC Santa Cruz



Nope, I don't think I have ever heard of apple.

I am still debating moving out to the bay area, it would definitely be
a change in scenery, and it is up there on my list of possible places
to move to.

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Congrats to all the riders, Chuck is a beast. I am going to guess that
he will dominate the world of unicycle racing for quite some time.

I think the next unicon is going to be interesting because there will
be A LOT more geared 36ers competing. Is this the first year that a
guni has beat out an ungeared uni on the marathon? I remember reading a
lot of threads from last year that said that many riders chose to go
ungeared because they thought they were faster ungeared. This might
have been true for last years course? Was last years course
significantly hillier than this years?


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siafirede wrote:


Congrats to all the riders, Chuck is a beast. I am going to guess that
he will dominate the world of unicycle racing for quite some time.





Chuck most certainly is a beast, but I think it's too early call world
domination. Not alot of the top riders have a 36" Schlumpf yet. In
fact, not one of the top four riders from last Unicon marathon has one.
The first shipment of KH 36" frames haven't even arrived in most
countries.

I think one of the most impressive rides of the day was Dustin and Sams
on the fixed gear, but there is no way of comparing our rides with
theirs. Put either Sam or Dustin on a 36" Schlumpf and I suspect
they'll blow everyone away.



siafirede wrote:

I think the next unicon is going to be interesting because there will
be A LOT more geared 36ers competing. Is this the first year that a
guni has beat out an ungeared uni on the marathon? I remember reading a
lot of threads from last year that said that many riders chose to go
ungeared because they thought they were faster ungeared. This might
have been true for last years course? Was last years course
significantly hillier than this years?



Unicon 13 ran the first full length Marathon. Previously the 10km road
race was called a 'Marathon'. So yes, it is the first Unicon marathon
where geared unicycles beat fixed unicycles.

At Unicon 13, the fastest riders essentially all rode on fixed gear. I
would be the first to concede that I was one of those who said that I
went ungeared because it felt like it was faster than geared. However,
I suspect the result was what it was because all the fastest riders
chose to ride fixed rather than geared....Patrick, Roger and Dustin.

So yes, I'll eat my words. The 29" Schlumpf today felt much faster
than a 36" fixed, as evidenced by the quality of riders riding fixed
gears who were dropped.

As for the course...todays was essentially flat (it is Denmark).
Unicon 13 was also pretty flat, but had a couple of short climbs.


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GizmoDuck wrote:

I think one of the most impressive rides of the day was Dustin and Sams
on the fixed gear, but there is no way of comparing our rides with
theirs. Put either Sam or Dustin on a 36" Schlumpf and I suspect
they'll blow everyone away.




Come on, Ken, give credit where it's due. Chuck has demolished the
fastest riders in the world four times in a row. (RTL TT and
criterium, UNICON 10k and marathon). He beat Sam and Dustin by almost
8 minutes in the marathon. Eight minutes! Maybe, if those guys got
Schlumpf 36ers and trained on them for six months or so, they might be
able to compete with Chuck. I expect they're going to try, and then
we'll have something to talk about. But to dismiss Chuck's
accomplishment as somehow based on the equipment rather than his own
strength is really lame. There were at least five other geared 36ers
in the marathon, two of whom came from the winning Ride The Lobster
team, and Chuck beat them all by over three minutes. Chuck beat them
because he's freaking fast.


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You da man, Chuck! Way to go!!


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First, a big terrorist fist jab to Chuck for the marathon win! Congrats
to Ken for spinning into second place on a guni29. And Jan and Tony -
you guys are -fast-! Then for Sam and Dustin, less than two seconds
apart and in top spots on fixies! Simply incredible!

Ken, you talked about "laps". How long were the laps?


tholub wrote:
Come on, Ken, give credit where it's due. Chuck has demolished the
fastest riders...to dismiss Chuck's accomplishment as somehow based on
the equipment rather than his own strength is really lame.

Eeeeasy, big fella! No need for that kinda talk.

Chuck is amazing, like a buffalo/cheetah hybrid. But he does have that
first-ever KH36 prototype, thus has maybe practiced fast guni36 riding
more than anyone else has had the opportunity to. There are many
crazy-fast unicyclists, some of which were in that race on slower
machines - when they all have KH36 gunis the races will be closer.


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steveyo wrote:


Chuck is amazing, like a buffalo/cheetah hybrid. But he does have that
first-ever KH36 prototype, thus has maybe practiced fast guni36 riding
more than anyone else has had the opportunity to. There are many
crazy-fast unicyclists, some of which were in that race on slower
machines - when they all have KH36 gunis the races will be closer.



Or it may actually spread the field a little more.

It is becoming clear that for some riders, a geared 36 gives a
significant advantage.

Case in point - I know Tony built up a geared 36 literally a day or two
before he left for unicon because he suspected it would make him faster.
It was a big gamble (as he had to dismantle his geared 29er to do so).
Fortunately his decision was backed up on the one day he had for a
training ride. He discovered he was about 8% faster over the same
course that he had previously ridden on a geared 29er. Remember that
he has had plenty of experience on a geared 29er and virtually none on
a geared 36. I would expect the advantage to increase a little more
with practice.

I did some back of the envelope calculations and if Ken sees a similar
increase in speed, he would have shaved more than 6 and a half minutes
off his marathon time, putting him about 5 minutes ahead of Chuck!

It looks like the winning combination will be a crazy-fast rider on a
geared 36 and as yet very few of the fastest riders out there have one.
Unfortunately we couldn't get Ken his geared 36 in time as our shipment
was delayed a month :-(


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