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Old November 27th 18, 10:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be

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Old November 28th 18, 01:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:06:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be


But did they use 40 tooth free hub sprockets :-)

cheers,

John B.


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Old November 28th 18, 06:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:04:12 PM UTC-5, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:06:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be


But did they use 40 tooth free hub sprockets :-)

cheers,

John B.


Not by the looks of most of the bikes being ridden or attempted to be ridden up that hill. Looks like a lot of the riders could have used lower gears though. ;)

Cheers
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Old November 28th 18, 07:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:49:46 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:04:12 PM UTC-5, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 16:06:52 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be


But did they use 40 tooth free hub sprockets :-)

cheers,

John B.


Not by the looks of most of the bikes being ridden or

attempted to be ridden up that hill. Looks like a lot of the riders
could have used lower gears though. ;)

Cheers


It is hard to see but I thought that many of the bikes had a smaller
chain wheel, at least they didn't look like a 52 tooth.

cheers,

John B.


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Old November 28th 18, 06:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:06:57 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be

--
- Frank Krygowski


I watched a video of that ride and I was more than impressed. I stopped looking at our hard climbs here as being all that hard and it actually improved my performance.
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Old November 28th 18, 06:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 9:03:08 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 1:06:57 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
2018 "Dirty Dozen" race in Pittsburgh, climbing 13 of the steepest hills
in the Pittsburgh area, and perhaps the world:
https://www.bikepgh.org/2017/11/13/d...zen-challenge/

Video from this year's attack on Canton Ave., which is either the
steepest or second steepest paved street in the world:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z_l...ature=youtu.be

--
- Frank Krygowski


I watched a video of that ride and I was more than impressed. I stopped looking at our hard climbs here as being all that hard and it actually improved my performance.


The Portland version is the Ronde de PDX, which is 7,300 feet of climbing in 51 miles -- rather than a mere 6,243 feet in 52 miles. https://www.strava..com/activities/441466067 https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...an-west-portla The PDX grades, however, never exceed 31.4% -- and that's just for a number of yards.

The climbs in your area are far more epic -- rather than scrambles up walls, although there are probably plenty of walls in the Oakland hills.

As for climbing just to climb, a Utah team-mate and friend of my son did 32,000 feet of climbing in one day up and down the same neighborhood wall-climb in Salt Lake City. He also did 30,871 riding the SLC canyons, which involves a lot more time riding between canyons. https://www.facebook.com/universityo...54519895920636

Personally, the last thing I want to do is scramble up a bunch of inner-city walls. I climb because it's a mandatory part of most riding around here or for the scenery and low traffic volume. Climbing with cars sucks unless there is a wide shoulder -- which is one of the nice things about climbing in SLC where the canyons are scenic and have shoulders or very low traffic volumes. And when I lived in SCV, I loved Mt. Hamilton and the Santa Cruz Mountains, although the last time I was down there, HWY 9 was like a mid-life-crisis-mobile race track.

-- Jay Beattie.



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Old November 28th 18, 08:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 11/28/2018 12:58 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Personally, the last thing I want to do is scramble up a bunch of inner-city walls. I climb because it's a mandatory part of most riding around here or for the scenery and low traffic volume. Climbing with cars sucks unless there is a wide shoulder -- which is one of the nice things about climbing in SLC where the canyons are scenic and have shoulders or very low traffic volumes. And when I lived in SCV, I loved Mt. Hamilton and the Santa Cruz Mountains, although the last time I was down there, HWY 9 was like a mid-life-crisis-mobile race track.


One friend of mine runs weekly or semi-weekly "Hill Repeat" rides - up,
down, & repeat for as long as you can stand it. Another friend has told
me "I just _love_ climbing hills!"

Masochism has its place, I guess. And I admit to climbing certain hills
just to see if I could do it (or later, could still do it). And in my
working days, my climb out of the valley on the way home (plus hauling
my daughter on our tandem) eventually made me a pretty good climber by
local standards.

But these days I climb hills mostly when they're in the way, and when
there's no practical way around.

I once had an article published in _Bicycling_ magazine about using USGS
topo maps for cycling. A major theme was how to avoid hills.


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Old November 28th 18, 09:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 11:46:52 AM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/28/2018 12:58 PM, jbeattie wrote:


Personally, the last thing I want to do is scramble up a bunch of inner-city walls. I climb because it's a mandatory part of most riding around here or for the scenery and low traffic volume. Climbing with cars sucks unless there is a wide shoulder -- which is one of the nice things about climbing in SLC where the canyons are scenic and have shoulders or very low traffic volumes. And when I lived in SCV, I loved Mt. Hamilton and the Santa Cruz Mountains, although the last time I was down there, HWY 9 was like a mid-life-crisis-mobile race track.


One friend of mine runs weekly or semi-weekly "Hill Repeat" rides - up,
down, & repeat for as long as you can stand it. Another friend has told
me "I just _love_ climbing hills!"

Masochism has its place, I guess. And I admit to climbing certain hills
just to see if I could do it (or later, could still do it). And in my
working days, my climb out of the valley on the way home (plus hauling
my daughter on our tandem) eventually made me a pretty good climber by
local standards.

But these days I climb hills mostly when they're in the way, and when
there's no practical way around.

I once had an article published in _Bicycling_ magazine about using USGS
topo maps for cycling. A major theme was how to avoid hills.


I see people doing hill repeats in the cemetery, and it gives me a longing for the past when it was just me and the dead-bodies. Going down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zh1r4_QX1E After the route "officially" opened to cyclists, it turned into a crowd scene -- so much so that it was banned as a segment on Strava to reduce racing up or down (it hasn't).

Growing old sucks. I can climb all day by myself -- assuming I want to do that -- but I'm getting tired of duking it out with other people, and I can't help myself. My son hits the throttle on a hill, and I get out of the saddle and flail around and go backwards. It's a sad sight -- like a flopping fish dying on the dock.

The best climbing is being out with the old guys and catching some scenery. https://ridewithgps.com/photos/962865/large.jpg Great photo stream of a local gravel ride: https://ridewithgps.com/ambassador_r...ney-to-bennett That's covered in snow now, so not an option. Ski season!

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old November 29th 18, 01:29 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
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I see people doing hill repeats in the cemetery, and it gives me a longing for the past when it was just me and the dead-bodies. Going down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zh1r4_QX1E After the route "officially" opened to cyclists, it turned into a crowd scene -- so much so that it was banned as a segment on Strava to reduce racing up or down (it hasn't).

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I like how the guy riding through that cemetery where there is no one visible for most if not all of the video feels that he has to have a bright flashing light on.

Cheers
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Old November 29th 18, 02:15 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 11/28/2018 6:29 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 at 3:53:58 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
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I see people doing hill repeats in the cemetery, and it gives me a longing for the past when it was just me and the dead-bodies. Going down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zh1r4_QX1E After the route "officially" opened to cyclists, it turned into a crowd scene -- so much so that it was banned as a segment on Strava to reduce racing up or down (it hasn't).

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I like how the guy riding through that cemetery where there is no one visible for most if not all of the video feels that he has to have a bright flashing light on.

Cheers


huh. None of my lights have an off switch.

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