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Old July 23rd 04, 04:07 PM
Werehatrack
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On 22 Jul 2004 21:29:34 -0700, (Jeff Wills) wrote:

Anyway- Steve, trike conversions are sold by a few bike shops here and
there. Since you don't say where you are, I can't refer you to a
specific shop.
I plugged "bike trike conversion" into Google and found these:
http://www.web.net/freedex/Trike%20Conversion.htm
http://www.megalowrider.com/Item/F9901.htm
http://www.masterlowrider.shoppingca...441/135896.htm

The conversion housing and associated parts are also available from
J&B Importers- but there doesn't appear to be a complete kit listed.
You'll have to talk to a knowledgable dealer to get all the parts.


One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times.

I'd ask about the type of system used before buying any kit.
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Old July 26th 04, 06:20 AM
Tom Sherman
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Werehatrack wrote:

One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times....


Most purpose built delta trikes drive only one rear wheel. A
differential adds significant cost and complexity.

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Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Old July 26th 04, 06:20 AM
Tom Sherman
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Werehatrack wrote:

One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times....


Most purpose built delta trikes drive only one rear wheel. A
differential adds significant cost and complexity.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

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Old July 26th 04, 05:26 PM
Werehatrack
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:20:16 -0500, Tom Sherman
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Werehatrack wrote:

One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times....


Most purpose built delta trikes drive only one rear wheel. A
differential adds significant cost and complexity.


It also adds another drawback; unless the diff is equipped with a slip
brake (in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction") the
effectiveness of the drive will be completely lost when *either* rear
wheel lifts off the road. With one-side-drive, you only lose drive
effectiveness when the driving wheel lifts. There are reasons to
prefer each of these, but when cost is taken into account, the
one-siders tend to win. I had a one-sider as a delivery vehicle back
in the early '70s; I don't miss it.
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Old July 26th 04, 05:26 PM
Werehatrack
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:20:16 -0500, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Werehatrack wrote:

One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times....


Most purpose built delta trikes drive only one rear wheel. A
differential adds significant cost and complexity.


It also adds another drawback; unless the diff is equipped with a slip
brake (in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction") the
effectiveness of the drive will be completely lost when *either* rear
wheel lifts off the road. With one-side-drive, you only lose drive
effectiveness when the driving wheel lifts. There are reasons to
prefer each of these, but when cost is taken into account, the
one-siders tend to win. I had a one-sider as a delivery vehicle back
in the early '70s; I don't miss it.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
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Old July 26th 04, 10:57 PM
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:26:36 GMT, Werehatrack
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in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction"


And there was I thinking it was called a limited slip differential :-)

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Old July 26th 04, 10:57 PM
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:26:36 GMT, Werehatrack
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in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction"


And there was I thinking it was called a limited slip differential :-)

Guy
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Old July 27th 04, 03:22 AM
Werehatrack
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:57:26 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:26:36 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote in message
:

in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction"


And there was I thinking it was called a limited slip differential :-)


It is, if you have the time, but if you're really in a hurry it's just
"posi". (Car racing fanatics are in a hurry a lot.)
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Old July 27th 04, 03:22 AM
Werehatrack
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 22:57:26 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:26:36 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote in message
:

in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction"


And there was I thinking it was called a limited slip differential :-)


It is, if you have the time, but if you're really in a hurry it's just
"posi". (Car racing fanatics are in a hurry a lot.)
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.
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Old July 28th 04, 05:04 AM
Tom Sherman
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Werehatrack wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 00:20:16 -0500, Tom Sherman
wrote:


Werehatrack wrote:


One consideration to keep in mind; the cheaper kits generally are set
up to drive only one of the rear wheels, and while that works, it's
not necessarily as good as using an axle with a differential that
drives both wheels. One-wheel-drive is, however, vastly preferred
over a straight axle that drives both wheels; this is not a safe setup
for a trike, as it makes steering very dodgy...and downright
impossible at times....


Most purpose built delta trikes drive only one rear wheel. A
differential adds significant cost and complexity.



It also adds another drawback; unless the diff is equipped with a slip
brake (in automotive apps, this is called "posi-traction") the
effectiveness of the drive will be completely lost when *either* rear
wheel lifts off the road. With one-side-drive, you only lose drive
effectiveness when the driving wheel lifts. There are reasons to
prefer each of these, but when cost is taken into account, the
one-siders tend to win. I had a one-sider as a delivery vehicle back
in the early '70s; I don't miss it.


Another approach is to use an axle with no differential to drive both
wheels, but to use freewheeling hubs. This allows the inner wheel to
coast while turning, but delivers power to both wheels in slippery
conditions. I know of one homebuilt delta trike using this arrangement.

--
Tom Sherman – Quad City Area

 




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