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DFW Wheelbuilder? Not LBS?
Looking for a wheelbuilder in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area.
I'd prefer an individual, rather than an LBS. TIA, -Bob |
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DFW Wheelbuilder? Not LBS?
What wrong with an LBS? Assuming you can find one in your area that
*knows* how to build wheels, wouldn't they have all the needed supplies and tools necessary to build a wheel? Further, what about warranty? Most LBS charge between $30-60 per wheel for labor. Very reasonable if they know what they're doing. |
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"Hell and High Water" wrote ...
Looking for a wheelbuilder in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. I'd prefer an individual, rather than an LBS. TIA, -Bob Buy the book and build it yourself ("The Bicycle Wheel", by r.b.t.'s own Jobst Brandt)? Not that hard, and much more satisfying than paying an individual or an LBS to do it. -- mark |
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always feel like I'm imposing on them.
I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions before, during, and after my wheels are built. Hey, if you're paying what they're asking, its not imposing. Further, most builders are proud to show off their work and explain what they did. may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs. I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it there. And an independent person would want to use *your junk*? The one independent wheelbuilder I know only uses spokes HE has purchased, and won't use stuff brought in from someone else. For example, what if you happen to buy the wrong spoke or the stuff you brought truly is *junk*? Do you expect anyone to use it? I've had spotty results from LBS's. OK, if you don't have a good LBS near you that's different. Then maybe you should be asking for reference to a good wheelbuilding LBS or independent in your area. Online prices (for materials) are 50-60% cheaper. Maybe. You might save a few dollars buying online, but you better know what you need, e.g., spoke size. I'd prefer someone who specializes in this. Assuming you can find a good LBS who KNOWS how to build wheels in your area, wouldn't that shop be a specialist? After all, that what he does! |
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Hell and High Water wrote:
In article .com, says... What wrong with an LBS? I always feel like I'm imposing on them. I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions before, during, and after my wheels are built. During? Not a good idea. There are typically X opportunities to forget what you were doing, where X corresponds to the number of spokes on a wheel. Customers asking questions during a wheelbuild is a bad idea, and if they forget where they were, you'll be eating the cost of detensioning and retensioning. If you can find one that *truly* doesn't mind, then great! I may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs. I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it there. They may charge you more for not having bought the spokes there, but guilt is your problem, not theirs. Unless they're making you feel guilty. Remember it's your choice to buy online. I'll do some of the work myself. Tires, etc. I'd like to get measurements/suggestions/answers from someone, and feel no responsibility to PURCHASE any products from them, other than their service. If they're pressuring you to buy, leave. If you feel pressured yourself, work on not feeling that way. I'd prefer someone who specializes in this. Bike shops do. Ask about their experience. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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bfd wrote: Assuming you can find a good LBS who KNOWS how to build wheels in your area, wouldn't that shop be a specialist? After all, that what he does! the main problem with store mechanics is they are under tremendous pressure to work fast. so often a store built wheel is undertensioned, since it's quicker to make a round and true wheel with low tension. getting a wheel up to proper tension and making it round and true is a lot more labour intensive. |
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DFW Wheelbuilder? Not LBS?
Hell and High Water wrote: In article .com, says... What wrong with an LBS? I always feel like I'm imposing on them. Is this your impression or from something THEY said did?(Lots of perceptions are not accurate) I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions before, during, and after my wheels are built. I may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs. I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it there. It bothers some but not all. Things like spokes are not expensive at a LBS. Saving 40% may seem like a big percentage, but actually only saving 2 or 3 cents. But remeber, you are paying for their knowledge and expertise, which they should charge you for. I'll do some of the work myself. Tires, etc. I'd like to get measurements/suggestions/answers from someone, and feel no responsibility to PURCHASE any products from them, other than their service. see above. I've had spotty results from LBS's. Online prices (for materials) are 50-60% cheaper. I'd prefer someone who specializes in this. -Bob |
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Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote: Hell and High Water wrote: In article .com, says... What wrong with an LBS? I always feel like I'm imposing on them. I'd like to spend time with the builder, asking lots of questions before, during, and after my wheels are built. During? Not a good idea. There are typically X opportunities to forget what you were doing, where X corresponds to the number of spokes on a wheel. Customers asking questions during a wheelbuild is a bad idea, and if they forget where they were, you'll be eating the cost of detensioning and retensioning. Not true. Since you use the truing stand, dishing tool and tensiomometer as the 'gauge' to determine when the wheel is done, it's pretty hard to 'forget' where you are. On busy days, it may take 3-4 hours to finish a wheel for me but I don't forget where I am in the wheel. If you can find one that *truly* doesn't mind, then great! I may only need some new spokes put on my existing rims and hubs. I'll buy the spokes online, and I don't want to feel guilty for bringing a bunch of junk into the LBS and not having bought any of it there. They may charge you more for not having bought the spokes there, but guilt is your problem, not theirs. Unless they're making you feel guilty. Remember it's your choice to buy online. I'll do some of the work myself. Tires, etc. I'd like to get measurements/suggestions/answers from someone, and feel no responsibility to PURCHASE any products from them, other than their service. If they're pressuring you to buy, leave. If you feel pressured yourself, work on not feeling that way. I'd prefer someone who specializes in this. Bike shops do. Ask about their experience. -- Phil, Squid-in-Training |
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