A Cycling & bikes forum. CycleBanter.com

Go Back   Home » CycleBanter.com forum » rec.bicycles » Recumbent Biking
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old October 22nd 03, 03:42 AM
Alan Mushnick
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

Why does this bike have a remote steering set up? Is this better than
the easy racers chopper type bars?
Alan
Ads
  #42  
Old October 22nd 03, 05:23 AM
rorschandt
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

a&b wrote in :

Several years back Prince, think tennis, not TAFKAP, made a mag
racquet that didn't stand up very well to sweat. Got real pitted.
Didn't some major bike maker have a mag or mag alloy MTB frame, or
some part of it was, and it seems the same thing happened. Didn't
tolerate salt. I'm kinda fuzzy on the bike frames but I saw a bunch of
the mag racquets that looked like they'd been sand blasted from
players sweating on 'em. bill g

Yes, magnesium is quite vulnerable to corrosion. Allegedly powder coat or
anodizing takes care of this, but I would be hesitant as each of these
coatings can and will get scratched.


r
--
May all beings be happy.
May they be joyous and live in safety.
All living beings, whether weak or strong,
in high or middle or low realms of existence,
small or great, visible or invisible,
near or far, born or to be born,
Let no one deceive another, nor despise any being in any state;
Let none by anger or hatred wish harm to another.
Even as a mother at the risk of her life watches over
and protects her only child,
so with a boundless mind should one cherish all living things,
  #43  
Old October 22nd 03, 05:23 AM
rorschandt
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

a&b wrote in :

Several years back Prince, think tennis, not TAFKAP, made a mag
racquet that didn't stand up very well to sweat. Got real pitted.
Didn't some major bike maker have a mag or mag alloy MTB frame, or
some part of it was, and it seems the same thing happened. Didn't
tolerate salt. I'm kinda fuzzy on the bike frames but I saw a bunch of
the mag racquets that looked like they'd been sand blasted from
players sweating on 'em. bill g

Yes, magnesium is quite vulnerable to corrosion. Allegedly powder coat or
anodizing takes care of this, but I would be hesitant as each of these
coatings can and will get scratched.


r
--
May all beings be happy.
May they be joyous and live in safety.
All living beings, whether weak or strong,
in high or middle or low realms of existence,
small or great, visible or invisible,
near or far, born or to be born,
Let no one deceive another, nor despise any being in any state;
Let none by anger or hatred wish harm to another.
Even as a mother at the risk of her life watches over
and protects her only child,
so with a boundless mind should one cherish all living things,
  #44  
Old October 22nd 03, 05:28 AM
PaPa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

Alan Mushnick wrote:
Why does this bike have a remote steering set up? Is this better than
the easy racers chopper type bars? Alan





Go back eleven spaces (posts) and R-E-A-D "PaPa's" post. (geesh!)



--
--------------------------

Posted via cyclingforums.com
http://www.cyclingforums.com
  #45  
Old October 22nd 03, 05:28 AM
PaPa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

Alan Mushnick wrote:
Why does this bike have a remote steering set up? Is this better than
the easy racers chopper type bars? Alan





Go back eleven spaces (posts) and R-E-A-D "PaPa's" post. (geesh!)



--
--------------------------

Posted via cyclingforums.com
http://www.cyclingforums.com
  #46  
Old October 22nd 03, 06:27 AM
PaPa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

Ken Kobayashi wrote:
On 21 Oct 2003 15:51:22 +0950, PaPa
wrote:
Actually the optimal head tube angle is 90 degrees according to some
designers (including Mike Burrows - says so in his book). Nobody's done
it with a production recumbent, probably because it's only practical
with remote steering and even then it looks really weird.
Ken Kobayashi http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayash-
i/personal/http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/




I don't generally agree.

As head tube angle approaches vertical, steering sensitivity
increases (this is just one of the contributing reasons why a SWB is
reportably "twitcher" than a LWB). At say, 60 degrees head tube
angle, much of the pilot's rotational steering input actually "tilts"
the front wheel instead of rotating it. This effectively changes the
input-to-response ratio.

Pilot preference and weight, design, CG, wheel base and a host of other
factors determine "optimal head tube angle"



--
--------------------------

Posted via cyclingforums.com
http://www.cyclingforums.com
  #47  
Old October 22nd 03, 06:27 AM
PaPa
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike

Ken Kobayashi wrote:
On 21 Oct 2003 15:51:22 +0950, PaPa
wrote:
Actually the optimal head tube angle is 90 degrees according to some
designers (including Mike Burrows - says so in his book). Nobody's done
it with a production recumbent, probably because it's only practical
with remote steering and even then it looks really weird.
Ken Kobayashi http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayash-
i/personal/http://solarwww.mtk.nao.ac.jp/kobayashi/personal/




I don't generally agree.

As head tube angle approaches vertical, steering sensitivity
increases (this is just one of the contributing reasons why a SWB is
reportably "twitcher" than a LWB). At say, 60 degrees head tube
angle, much of the pilot's rotational steering input actually "tilts"
the front wheel instead of rotating it. This effectively changes the
input-to-response ratio.

Pilot preference and weight, design, CG, wheel base and a host of other
factors determine "optimal head tube angle"



--
--------------------------

Posted via cyclingforums.com
http://www.cyclingforums.com
  #48  
Old October 22nd 03, 07:51 AM
Mikael Seierup
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike


"EVSolutions" skrev...
Anyone see that comment in the NY Times Oct.20th where Mr.Deetz said Carbon
Fiber has a tendency to "EXPLODE" when a bike frame made from it is in a
crash. The whole article was about CF being used for bike frames and bike
parts AND it included Craig Calfee in the story. So like someone rearends
Fast Freddie's LWB and the sucker goes KaBoom...it would be sooo cool to
have cars and SUVs afraid the next bent they hit will blow up and take out
them as well.


Ah you mean the big busses they are going to hit
because they can't see anything for the fairing? ;o)

(Use carbon/kevlar and the kevlar will prevent the bike from shattering AFAIK)

Mikael

  #49  
Old October 22nd 03, 07:51 AM
Mikael Seierup
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike


"EVSolutions" skrev...
Anyone see that comment in the NY Times Oct.20th where Mr.Deetz said Carbon
Fiber has a tendency to "EXPLODE" when a bike frame made from it is in a
crash. The whole article was about CF being used for bike frames and bike
parts AND it included Craig Calfee in the story. So like someone rearends
Fast Freddie's LWB and the sucker goes KaBoom...it would be sooo cool to
have cars and SUVs afraid the next bent they hit will blow up and take out
them as well.


Ah you mean the big busses they are going to hit
because they can't see anything for the fairing? ;o)

(Use carbon/kevlar and the kevlar will prevent the bike from shattering AFAIK)

Mikael

  #50  
Old October 22nd 03, 07:54 AM
Mikael Seierup
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Calfee Stiletto Pick by Velo News as one of the top 5 coolest bikes of Interbike


"Bryan Ball" skrev...

Carbon Fiber is THE material for bike frames... if you know what you're
doing. In order to do it right you have to REALLY focus on it.


Let me quote myself he
"Maybe they like titanium better?" They being Easy Racers.

Mikael

 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Science Proves Mountain Biking Is More Harmful Than Hiking Stephen Baker Mountain Biking 18 July 16th 04 04:28 AM
Danny-boy flails some more! (was: Advice on a good hardtail.) Jonesy Mountain Biking 31 June 18th 04 08:01 PM
Who is going to Interbike? Bruce Gilbert Techniques 2 October 10th 03 09:26 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:56 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 CycleBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.