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  #101  
Old July 30th 07, 10:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Donald Munro
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r15757 wrote:
What is it with the French riders who have to make a sort of orgasm
face for the cameras?


http://www.myorgasmface.com/

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  #102  
Old July 30th 07, 12:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Shane Stanley
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In article ,
Morten Reippuert wrote:

i quote:


That's not Evans saying he works with Ferrari, which was what you
claimed. You said: "Apperantly he says so himself". You statement is
mud-slinging, with no evidence.

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program.


Ah, well now you have absolute proof -- he rode a mountain bike. You
might also look at the relationship between MTB and road cycling at the
time. (TT program? There wasn't/isn't one, unless TT is some secret
code you've made up.) You realise you're just digging yourself a bigger
hole?

Secondly the DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team.


And according to you he brought a team of doctors and coaches with him.
But again, you have not the slightest shred of evidence.

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  #104  
Old July 31st 07, 12:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not anywhere on that page, he doesn't -- he's not actually quoted.
You're grasping at straws.

i quote:

"Gegen den Australier liegen keine Verdachtsmomente vor. Was dem
Lotto-Fahrer angelastet werden muss, ist die Zusammenarbeit mit dem
ehemaligen Armstrong-Coach Dr. Michele Ferrari. Wie alle Fahrer
beteuern, beschränkt sich die Tätigkeit von "Dottore Epo" rein auf
das Erstellen von Trainingsplänen"

Secondly history implicates him beeing part of the Australian OL2000
generation, the Austtralians hired former DDR top cycling trainers.

Actually they hired *one*. But I guess the fact that they did,
sometime
in the 90s, when Evans was still a mountain bike rider and had nothing
to do with the road program, is good enough for you. "History
implicates" indeed.

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program. Secondly the DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team. Where did Evans start his carrier?


If there's one thing that everyone can trust it's Dutch journalists who
are
known the world over as being far and impartial.


whos refering to dutch journalism?


Don't avoid the point Morten - didn't you spout about Soler not so long ago?

You seem an intelligent person and I really hate to see your being led
around by journalists who are perfectly willing to invent anything they
can't accurately report.


  #105  
Old July 31st 07, 08:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not anywhere on that page, he doesn't -- he's not actually quoted.
You're grasping at straws.

i quote:

"Gegen den Australier liegen keine Verdachtsmomente vor. Was dem
Lotto-Fahrer angelastet werden muss, ist die Zusammenarbeit mit dem
ehemaligen Armstrong-Coach Dr. Michele Ferrari. Wie alle Fahrer
beteuern, beschränkt sich die Tätigkeit von "Dottore Epo" rein auf
das Erstellen von Trainingsplänen"

Secondly history implicates him beeing part of the Australian OL2000
generation, the Austtralians hired former DDR top cycling trainers.

Actually they hired *one*. But I guess the fact that they did,
sometime
in the 90s, when Evans was still a mountain bike rider and had nothing
to do with the road program, is good enough for you. "History
implicates" indeed.

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program. Secondly the DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team. Where did Evans start his carrier?


If there's one thing that everyone can trust it's Dutch journalists who
are
known the world over as being far and impartial.


whos refering to dutch journalism?


Don't avoid the point Morten - didn't you spout about Soler not so long ago?


I don't think i did so. I just passed a rumor when people started
asking about the rumored positive test.

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  #106  
Old July 31st 07, 09:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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Shane Stanley wrote:

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program.


Ah, well now you have absolute proof -- he rode a mountain bike. You
might also look at the relationship between MTB and road cycling at the
time. (TT program? There wasn't/isn't one, unless TT is some secret
code you've made up.) You realise you're just digging yourself a bigger
hole?


Well Evans was a junior TT roadrace world champion, wasn't he?
Wouldn't that imply that Evans rode both road race and MTB durring the
90's?

Secondly the DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team.


And according to you he brought a team of doctors and coaches with him.
But again, you have not the slightest shred of evidence.


AIS brougth them, not the cycling headcoach. The doctors treted
cyclists, swimmers, athletics etc.

AIS and China picking up where DDR left isn't exactly a secret.

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Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) http://blog.reippuert.dk

Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.
  #107  
Old July 31st 07, 06:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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In article
,
Donald Munro wrote:

r15757 wrote:
What is it with the French riders who have to make a sort of orgasm
face for the cameras?


http://www.myorgasmface.com/


You don't think anyone is going to click through on that?

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  #108  
Old July 31st 07, 11:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not anywhere on that page, he doesn't -- he's not actually quoted.
You're grasping at straws.

i quote:

"Gegen den Australier liegen keine Verdachtsmomente vor. Was dem
Lotto-Fahrer angelastet werden muss, ist die Zusammenarbeit mit dem
ehemaligen Armstrong-Coach Dr. Michele Ferrari. Wie alle Fahrer
beteuern, beschränkt sich die Tätigkeit von "Dottore Epo" rein auf
das Erstellen von Trainingsplänen"

Secondly history implicates him beeing part of the Australian
OL2000
generation, the Austtralians hired former DDR top cycling
trainers.

Actually they hired *one*. But I guess the fact that they did,
sometime
in the 90s, when Evans was still a mountain bike rider and had
nothing
to do with the road program, is good enough for you. "History
implicates" indeed.

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program. Secondly the
DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team. Where did Evans start his carrier?

If there's one thing that everyone can trust it's Dutch journalists
who
are
known the world over as being far and impartial.

whos refering to dutch journalism?


Don't avoid the point Morten - didn't you spout about Soler not so long
ago?


I don't think i did so. I just passed a rumor when people started
asking about the rumored positive test.


Why are you avoiding the FACT that the journalists simply invented a story
out of whole cloth? And that you actually believe the majority of what you
read as if it were indeed fact?


  #109  
Old July 31st 07, 11:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote in message
...
Tom Kunich cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Not anywhere on that page, he doesn't -- he's not actually quoted.
You're grasping at straws.

i quote:

"Gegen den Australier liegen keine Verdachtsmomente vor. Was dem
Lotto-Fahrer angelastet werden muss, ist die Zusammenarbeit mit dem
ehemaligen Armstrong-Coach Dr. Michele Ferrari. Wie alle Fahrer
beteuern, beschränkt sich die Tätigkeit von "Dottore Epo" rein auf
das Erstellen von Trainingsplänen"

Secondly history implicates him beeing part of the Australian
OL2000
generation, the Austtralians hired former DDR top cycling
trainers.

Actually they hired *one*. But I guess the fact that they did,
sometime
in the 90s, when Evans was still a mountain bike rider and had
nothing
to do with the road program, is good enough for you. "History
implicates" indeed.

Evans was part of the MTB program and the TT program. Secondly the
DDR
coach was _head_ coach of the cycling program AND manager of the
Giant-AIS amateur team. Where did Evans start his carrier?

If there's one thing that everyone can trust it's Dutch journalists
who
are
known the world over as being far and impartial.

whos refering to dutch journalism?


Don't avoid the point Morten - didn't you spout about Soler not so long
ago?


I don't think i did so. I just passed a rumor when people started
asking about the rumored positive test.


Why are you avoiding the FACT that these journalists whom you have such
faith in, invented that story out of whole cloth?


  #110  
Old August 1st 07, 12:48 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Shane Stanley
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In article ,
Morten Reippuert wrote:

AIS brougth them, not the cycling headcoach. The doctors treted
cyclists, swimmers, athletics etc.


And these doctors were? And who were the coaches?

AIS and China picking up where DDR left isn't exactly a secret.


So why is it that the only ex-DDR person you can name has left (and gone
to Denmark, as it happens?)

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