"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"

It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.

A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes
found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the
dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web
page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has
bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke
to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King.

The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came
from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted
that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and
no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever
had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously
dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no
useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe.

So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint
comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How
convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a
fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to
re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the
vain hope that the problem will go away.

James

"James Annan" wrote in message
...
It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.

A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes
found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the
dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web
page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has
bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke
to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King.

The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came
from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted
that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and
no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever
had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously
dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no
useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe.

So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint
comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How
convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a
fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to
re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the
vain hope that the problem will go away.

James


....or come back to rim brakes ;-)

"(t'other) Dave" wrote in message
...

"James Annan" wrote in message
...
It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.

A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes
found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the
dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web
page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has
bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke
to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King.

The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came
from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted
that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and
no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever
had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously
dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no
useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe.

So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint
comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How
convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a
fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to
re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the
vain hope that the problem will go away.

James


...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!



Shaun aRe

Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.


It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-)

"(t'other) Dave" wrote in message
...

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.


It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-)

Understated truths eh?!? ',;~}~


Shaun aRe

"(t'other) Dave" wrote in message
...

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.


It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-)

Understated truths eh?!? ',;~}~


Shaun aRe

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.

****! Rumbled again ',;~}~

Hiya Jacobe!

Shaun aRe

"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message
e.rogers.com...
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-)

Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup!

Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here.

****! Rumbled again ',;~}~

Hiya Jacobe!

Shaun aRe

"James Annan" wrote in message
...
It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers
are dealing with it.

Well I've not had a problem yet but I do make sure the standard Shimano
skewers are very tight.
Also I've noticed the "Lawyer Lips" on my new Rockshox seem particularly
generous, I don't know if that's just a fluke or deliberate to help address
the (alleged) problem.
--
Regards,
Pete