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Old August 5th 09, 04:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
J. Chisholm
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Can anyone tell me if the bit in:

http://www.bikeforall.net/content/cy...nd_the_law.php

and specifically:
"It is important to note that most legislation relating to 'cycling on
footpaths' actually relates to the riding of cycles on a 'footway set
aside for the use of pedestrians' which runs alongside a road. For
example, the 'fixed penalties' brought in a few years ago do NOT apply
to country footpaths where there is no road. Fixed penalty notices also
cannot be applied to areas such as parks, shopping precincts etc. unless
a byelaw has been passed making cycling such areas an offence, nor do
they apply to anyone under 16."

Is correct?

In addition can PCSOs issue FPNs for any other 'moving vehicle' offence
apart from 'riding on a footway'?
Can they issue FPNs for 'without lights' or 'entering a vehicle
restricted area'?

Jim
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Old August 5th 09, 06:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Fox[_8_]
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Is correct?
Yes.

Here is your cut-out-and-keep version:


(1) It is _criminal_ to cycle on the footpath *adjacent to a road*.
(2) Otherwise it isn't - unless there are special bylaws.

Those red circles with cycles inside you see by cut-throughs etc. are
unlikley to make you /criminal/ although the occupier of the land can
prevent you cycling. ie You have no *right* to cycle on that sort of path.

And the standard for impaired cycling is pretty steep. If you can control
the bike without being an obvious danger then that's perfectly good enough.

No you can't be brethalysed.

No you can't get points on your driving licence.



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Old August 5th 09, 07:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Marc[_2_]
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J. Chisholm wrote:
Can anyone tell me if the bit in:

http://www.bikeforall.net/content/cy...nd_the_law.php

and specifically:
"It is important to note that most legislation relating to 'cycling on
footpaths' actually relates to the riding of cycles on a 'footway set
aside for the use of pedestrians' which runs alongside a road. For
example, the 'fixed penalties' brought in a few years ago do NOT apply
to country footpaths where there is no road. Fixed penalty notices also
cannot be applied to areas such as parks, shopping precincts etc. unless
a byelaw has been passed making cycling such areas an offence, nor do
they apply to anyone under 16."

Is correct?

In addition can PCSOs issue FPNs for any other 'moving vehicle' offence
apart from 'riding on a footway'?
Can they issue FPNs for 'without lights' or 'entering a vehicle
restricted area'?

Jim

Try not doing any of the above and you don't need to find out?
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Old August 6th 09, 01:50 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Brooke[_2_]
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On 5 Aug, 18:17, Peter Fox wrote:
Is correct?


Yes.

Here is your cut-out-and-keep version:

(1) It is _criminal_ to cycle on the footpath *adjacent to a road*.
(2) Otherwise it isn't - unless there are special bylaws.

Those red circles with cycles inside you see by cut-throughs etc. are
unlikley to make you /criminal/ although the occupier of the land can
prevent you cycling. ie You have no *right* to cycle on that sort of path..

And the standard for impaired cycling is pretty steep. *If you can control
the bike without being an obvious danger then that's perfectly good enough.

No you can't be brethalysed.

No you can't get points on your driving licence.


Note that this advice applies only to England. In Scotland you have an
absolute right to cycle on any sort of path, and it is an offence for
a landowner to seek to prevent you from cycling. You can legally cycle
just about anywhere except on motorways, inside factories, or on
private land in the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house.

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Old August 6th 09, 08:11 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Fox[_8_]
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Simon Brooke wrote:
Note that this advice applies only to England. In Scotland you have an
absolute right to cycle on any sort of path, and it is an offence for
a landowner to seek to prevent you from cycling. You can legally cycle
just about anywhere except on motorways, inside factories, or on
private land in the immediate vicinity of a dwelling house.

Ta. Useful information.

Sounds idyllic...
....but remember THE MIDGES
(And it can sometimes be a bit hilly for us East anglians.)

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Old August 6th 09, 09:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Clinch
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Simon Brooke wrote:

Note that this advice applies only to England. In Scotland you have an
absolute right to cycle on any sort of path, and it is an offence for
a landowner to seek to prevent you from cycling.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. The Access Legislation is actually a
very neat piece of wording that requires /both/ sides to play ball
with one another if they're to go out in the park.

You don't have a paricular right of access, period, so much as
/responsible/ access. So if your cycling is irresponsible then you
lose the right to access. Defining "responsible" is potentially a
bit of a minefield, of course, but it's clear enough to most people
and, thankfully, most landowners too thus far.

Pete.
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Old August 6th 09, 11:19 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Brooke[_2_]
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On 6 Aug, 09:21, Peter Clinch wrote:
Simon Brooke wrote:
Note that this advice applies only to England. In Scotland you have an
absolute right to cycle on any sort of path, and it is an offence for
a landowner to seek to prevent you from cycling.


Up to a point, Lord Copper. *The Access Legislation is actually a
very neat piece of wording that requires /both/ sides to play ball
with one another if they're to go out in the park.

You don't have a paricular right of access, period, so much as
/responsible/ access. *So if your cycling is irresponsible then you
lose the right to access. *Defining "responsible" is potentially a
bit of a minefield, of course, but it's clear enough to most people
and, thankfully, most landowners too thus far.


Defining 'responsible' is done quite neatly and precisely in part 1,
chapter 1, clause 2 of the act, which is an admirably clear piece of
legislation:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/legislation/s...2#pt1-ch1-l1g1

However, getting back to the original poster's intent, one of the few
places that I believe you may nevertheless not cycle in Scotland is on
a footway adjacent to a road.
 




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