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The most recent government statistics show that from last April to
June cycle deaths and total number of life-threatening injuries has increased by 19 percent from what it was at the same time last year. So lets be hearing the excuses. Have I ever told you that I think cycling is quite dangerous? -- Members of the medical profession refer to cyclists as "donors". (Daily Mail) |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:13:50 +0000, Judith M Smith
wrote: So lets be hearing the excuses. A fall in motorists, leading to higher average speeds makes motorists more dangerous. They need to install speed cameras at every road junction as that is where motorists routinely kill or injure innocent cyclists. |
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In article , Judith M Smith
says... So lets be hearing the excuses. The "have you seen the light" campaign last week saw police out in force in a bid to educate cyclists and motorists about traffic laws. Together with Cambridge City Council, the enforcement and education campaign was aimed to make sure cyclists and motorists? lights were working properly as the clocks went back. On TWO NIGHTS, they caught 200 people. Out of that 200, 121 were cyclists who had no lights whatsoever. 51 cyclists were reported for cycling on the pavement and three received fines for other offences with one being reported to the courts. Have I ever told you that I think cycling is quite dangerous? And its usually because of the moron doing the cycling. Lest you forget: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NyrmWhSDqqQ -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. |
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Judith M Smith wrote:
The most recent government statistics show that from last April to June cycle deaths and total number of life-threatening injuries has increased by 19 percent from what it was at the same time last year. So lets be hearing the excuses. Have I ever told you that I think cycling is quite dangerous? It's not the cycling, it's the aggressive motorists that are the problem. |
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"Happi Monday" wrote in message
... Judith M Smith wrote: The most recent government statistics show that from last April to June cycle deaths and total number of life-threatening injuries has increased by 19 percent from what it was at the same time last year. So lets be hearing the excuses. Have I ever told you that I think cycling is quite dangerous? It's not the cycling, it's the aggressive motorists that are the problem. It's the cyclists who think that they are above the law and need not stop at red traffic lights and zebra crossings with people on them, and who try to overtake left-turning vehicles on the left. I cycle as if I am a human-powered two-wheeled car, obeying all the same laws and rulesand not trying to seek any advantage over cars and lorries by virtue of being narrower or by being untraceable (ie no number plate that can be reprted). |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:04:08 +0000, Tom Crispin put finger to keyboard
and typed: On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:13:50 +0000, Judith M Smith wrote: So lets be hearing the excuses. A fall in motorists, leading to higher average speeds makes motorists more dangerous. They need to install speed cameras at every road junction as that is where motorists routinely kill or injure innocent cyclists. That wouldn't have any effect, as motorists aren't usually speeding at junctions. You can easily kill someone at 29mph if you aren't looking where you're going and aren't aware of what's around you. If you want my explanation (not an excuse, since I think that bad driving is always inexcusable), I'd say that it's precisely the automated enforcement of purely technical offences, such as speeding, that is the problem. It's creating a generation of motorists who think that so long as they're within the speed limit they must be driving safely, and removed the incentive for the police to do the job of policing bad driving. Mark -- Blog: http://mark.goodge.co.uk Stuff: http://www.good-stuff.co.uk |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:04:08 +0000, Tom Crispin
wrote: A fall in motorists, leading to higher average speeds makes motorists more dangerous. They need to install speed cameras at every road junction as that is where motorists routinely kill or injure innocent cyclists. Tomorrow morning on Radio 4, about 9:30am, this is due to be discussed. Or so I'm told. Year-to-date figures are 2% higher, with a significant measured increase in cycling, it's only the direct comparison of one quarter with another. Anyone remember what the weather and the economy were like in Q2 2008 compared with Q2 2009? These are small numbers to start with so it's not going to take much to skew them. But as the commentator said on the news earlier today, it's simply not possible to draw any sensible conclusion from comparing these two particular figures. Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc GPG public key at http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/pgp-public-key.txt |
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In article , Just zis Guy,
you know? says... Anyone remember what the weather and the economy were like in Q2 2008 compared with Q2 2009? These are small numbers to start with so it's not going to take much to skew them. Weather was ****e. Economy hadn't yet tanked. -- Conor www.notebooks-r-us.co.uk I'm not prejudiced. I hate everybody equally. |
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Tom Crispin wrote in
: On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 20:13:50 +0000, Judith M Smith wrote: So lets be hearing the excuses. A fall in motorists, leading to higher average speeds makes motorists more dangerous. They need to install speed cameras at every road junction as that is where motorists routinely kill or injure innocent cyclists. How the hell does any driver manage to exceed the speed limit at a road junction? |
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"Martin" wrote in
o.uk: "Happi Monday" wrote in message ... Judith M Smith wrote: The most recent government statistics show that from last April to June cycle deaths and total number of life-threatening injuries has increased by 19 percent from what it was at the same time last year. So lets be hearing the excuses. Have I ever told you that I think cycling is quite dangerous? It's not the cycling, it's the aggressive motorists that are the problem. It's the cyclists who think that they are above the law and need not stop at red traffic lights and zebra crossings with people on them, and who try to overtake left-turning vehicles on the left. I cycle as if I am a human-powered two-wheeled car, obeying all the same laws and rulesand not trying to seek any advantage over cars and lorries by virtue of being narrower or by being untraceable (ie no number plate that can be reprted). And that is exactly the way I cycle. And I have never been involved in an accident involving a four wheeled vehicle. I did have a mishap once which was the fault of a curb however. Entirely my fault. |
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