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"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote in message ...
Your are 100% right. But right now I've got a 1997 Suburban that's giving me **** and could use the money. Hey overzealous liberal Kerry Fan- You are the source of uncontrollable fuel prices - Go buy a Prius like the rest of your brethren so you can have one less thing to be hypocritical about. -a (takes the bus or rides as much as humanly possible) |
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"Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote in message ...
Your are 100% right. But right now I've got a 1997 Suburban that's giving me **** and could use the money. Hey overzealous liberal Kerry Fan- You are the source of uncontrollable fuel prices - Go buy a Prius like the rest of your brethren so you can have one less thing to be hypocritical about. -a (takes the bus or rides as much as humanly possible) |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message m... even the person with the most perfect home life will probably be saying just this at mile 24 of their first marathon. i'm supposed to run a marathon in a few weeks, and it's about 50% due to the fact that kristen ran a sub 4 hour on her first try. (i wondered if i could do that too....nope...) Miles 18-20 are the worst. Miles 24-26 are easy if the crowd is any good. Good luck. I wonder if it's similar to a century? I used to find miles 55-60 very tough... seemed like so much ahead, and yet I felt like I'd already run myself into the ground. Once to the 2/3rds mark it seemed not so bad, although it was still pretty tough up to about mile 90. That was then, this is now. Age brings patience, which I think is vastly under-rated. People push the wisdom thing, but I really haven't seen any evidence I'm afflicted with that! But patience- knowing that the task is doable can be a very calming and performance-enhancing thing. I now feel stronger at mile 80 than I do at 20, and that makes such a difference overall. 80 is true for me. After the first 70 to 80 was mental and physical challenge, but after that the last 20 is like gliding on air. I feel nothing. Not true however if the last 20 are uphill. Since the old climbing legs aren't as good as they used to be and also my heart is more tired as well if I have to climb the last 20, as I can really feel it. I suppose the Death Valley riders know this quite well. I have never been any good over 100 miles. I got a buddy that keeps wanting to drag me off on a double. He's got knee trouble now, you guys can keep those doubles! |
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"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message m... even the person with the most perfect home life will probably be saying just this at mile 24 of their first marathon. i'm supposed to run a marathon in a few weeks, and it's about 50% due to the fact that kristen ran a sub 4 hour on her first try. (i wondered if i could do that too....nope...) Miles 18-20 are the worst. Miles 24-26 are easy if the crowd is any good. Good luck. I wonder if it's similar to a century? I used to find miles 55-60 very tough... seemed like so much ahead, and yet I felt like I'd already run myself into the ground. Once to the 2/3rds mark it seemed not so bad, although it was still pretty tough up to about mile 90. That was then, this is now. Age brings patience, which I think is vastly under-rated. People push the wisdom thing, but I really haven't seen any evidence I'm afflicted with that! But patience- knowing that the task is doable can be a very calming and performance-enhancing thing. I now feel stronger at mile 80 than I do at 20, and that makes such a difference overall. 80 is true for me. After the first 70 to 80 was mental and physical challenge, but after that the last 20 is like gliding on air. I feel nothing. Not true however if the last 20 are uphill. Since the old climbing legs aren't as good as they used to be and also my heart is more tired as well if I have to climb the last 20, as I can really feel it. I suppose the Death Valley riders know this quite well. I have never been any good over 100 miles. I got a buddy that keeps wanting to drag me off on a double. He's got knee trouble now, you guys can keep those doubles! |
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"Sierraman" wrote in message ... 80 is true for me. After the first 70 to 80 was mental and physical challenge, but after that the last 20 is like gliding on air. I feel nothing. Not true however if the last 20 are uphill. Since the old climbing legs aren't as good as they used to be and also my heart is more tired as well if I have to climb the last 20, as I can really feel it. I suppose the Death Valley riders know this quite well. I have never been any good over 100 miles. I got a buddy that keeps wanting to drag me off on a double. He's got knee trouble now, you guys can keep those doubles! Having never run (nor do I ever intend to run) a marathon, I would compare that event to a double century rather than a century. Doing doubles, I've found that physically the last 15 miles is the most difficult. Psychologically, there is a dead zone for me from about 130 miles to 180 miles. At 130, you've already done a metric double that keep you in mental anticipation. Now you have nothing for nearly another 3/4 of a century. It can be depressing. That said, the pain from pounding ones joints for 20+ miles must be far more physically destructive than riding for 200. |
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"Sierraman" wrote in message ... 80 is true for me. After the first 70 to 80 was mental and physical challenge, but after that the last 20 is like gliding on air. I feel nothing. Not true however if the last 20 are uphill. Since the old climbing legs aren't as good as they used to be and also my heart is more tired as well if I have to climb the last 20, as I can really feel it. I suppose the Death Valley riders know this quite well. I have never been any good over 100 miles. I got a buddy that keeps wanting to drag me off on a double. He's got knee trouble now, you guys can keep those doubles! Having never run (nor do I ever intend to run) a marathon, I would compare that event to a double century rather than a century. Doing doubles, I've found that physically the last 15 miles is the most difficult. Psychologically, there is a dead zone for me from about 130 miles to 180 miles. At 130, you've already done a metric double that keep you in mental anticipation. Now you have nothing for nearly another 3/4 of a century. It can be depressing. That said, the pain from pounding ones joints for 20+ miles must be far more physically destructive than riding for 200. |
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