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David Hansen composed the following;:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:34:03 -0000 someone who may be "Paul - xxx" wrote this:- We don't allow them to swear at all, but recognise that they will whilst out with friends maybe, and that they'll hear it all on TV anyway ... and to be honest, they do hear it from me occasionally, whilst outside the influence of swmbo .. I find that swearing at my computers (and related gadgets) a great deal means I almost never swear at anything or anyone else. Heheheh, I generally mutter at the computers, they can hear, you know .. -- Paul ... http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php (8(!) Homer Rules ... "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using." |
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Tony Raven writes:
Not Responding wrote: Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way around that, I may become a customer. The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly easier to use iOpener. Both available at http://hymn-project.org/download.php jhymn is a nice gui pointy-clicky front end for hymn. |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:02:24 +0000 someone who may be David Martin
wrote this:- Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. Where's the difference? The first one is demonstrably wrong, as my QuickTime for Windows plugin demonstrates. The second is demonstrably wrong as my Windows Media Player for Mac demonstrates. Or indeed Micro**** Office works on Macs, either the Mac version of office or the PC version if a PC emulator is running on the Mac. Micro**** have written software for the Mac since the first models. Could someone remind me how much of Apple Micro**** own at the moment? -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:43:44 +0000, David Hansen
wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:02:24 +0000 someone who may be David Martin wrote this:- Apple stuff only works on machines with Apple operating systems. Microsoft stuff only works on machines with Microsoft operating systems. Where's the difference? The first one is demonstrably wrong, as my QuickTime for Windows plugin demonstrates. The second is demonstrably wrong as my Windows Media Player for Mac demonstrates. Or indeed Micro**** Office works on Macs, either the Mac version of office or the PC version if a PC emulator is running on the Mac. Micro**** have written software for the Mac since the first models. Could someone remind me how much of Apple Micro**** own at the moment? rant Oh don't get me started on Apple Evangelists. If I had as much money as one of them I'd be happy with an overpriced computer. And that new iPod shuffle. They even had Radio 4 telling us on Friday that it would be six months before someone came along with a comparable but cheaper product. Come off it! Flash memory MP3 players have been around since the 90s. I bought one off ebuyer for £20 last week... /rant |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:42:56 +0000, Tony Raven
wrote: Not Responding wrote: Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way around that, I may become a customer. The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. But you will end up with a poorer quality result since you are taking a lossy file, converting to a non-lossy PCM format but still with the lossy artefacts, and then converting to another lossy format but with different losses. You end up with a file which contains double the amount of "lossyness". In practice you may not notice the difference. The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly easier to use iOpener. Both available at http://hymn-project.org/download.php Hymn, as I understand it, does not involve any change in the music data - it merely strips out the copy protection. -- Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot', you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'. ... erm, how do they figure that one out? |
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Paul Rudin wrote:
Tony Raven writes: Paul - xxx wrote: This is something we're considering, but at 12 years old, we'd rather not have him going around with a £200 iPod around his neck .. his £50 MP3 player is good enough for now, and he has a CD Walkman .. ..and getting iTunes music onto anything other than an iPod is something Apple make very very difficult (not impossible though ;-) Not really difficult - you can burn to CD from itunes and then rip the CD back to MP3. Or you can use something like hymn http://hymn-project.org/ to remove the drm stuff (which probably technically breaks the itunes terms of use...) The latest version of iTunes (4.7.1) breaks Hymn thobut. -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ World Domination? Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine) |
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:42:56 +0000, Tony Raven
wrote: Not Responding wrote: Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way around that, I may become a customer. The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. But you will end up with a poorer quality result since you are taking a lossy file, converting to a non-lossy PCM format but still with the lossy artefacts, and then converting to another lossy format but with different losses. You end up with a file which contains double the amount of "lossyness". In practice you may not notice the difference. The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly easier to use iOpener. Both available at http://hymn-project.org/download.php Hymn, as I understand it, does not involve any change in the music data - it merely strips out the copy protection. (Apologies if this appears more than once) -- Amazon: "If you are interested in 'Asimov's I-Robot', you may also be interested in 'Garfield - The Movie'. ... erm, how do they figure that one out? |
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Paul Rudin wrote:
Tony Raven writes: Not Responding wrote: Any pointers to a simple "how to" guide for windows? The DRM issues have held me back from spending money on legal downloads but if there's a way around that, I may become a customer. The "simple" way is to burn them to a CD and tnen rip the CD to mp3. The complex way is to use Hymn as a command line programme or slightly easier to use iOpener. Both available at http://hymn-project.org/download.php jhymn is a nice gui pointy-clicky front end for hymn. And iOpener is an even nicer one IMO. Tony |
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