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Lube question about Record hubs
Hi Folks, On my new build up, I'm using new Record 32H Hubs front,
and rear, with Mavic Open Pro Silver Rims (Wheelsmith built gold label) What would be recommended, and compatible lubes/oils for these hubs? I wouldn't want to perhaps use the wrong type Oils/greases, and possibly damage any seals that may be incorporated in these hubs. (Synthetic or Petrol Based?) Another question I have pertains to the Oil Ports on these Hubs. I've heard that racers primarily use these, but should I, as an average user concern myself with injecting Oil into these? With my way of thinking, I would think after a fresh grease relube, and adjustment of hubs, maybe perhaps just 2 drops of oil per hub would in effect slightly "Cut" the viscosity of the grease, making for a slightly "Faster Wheel". Maybe any more than this amount would start to compromise the protection/effectiveness of the grease for the bearings/races? Is this correct thinking? Thanks, Mark D. |
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These are ball bearings. Use grease as it will stay put. First of all there is no such thing as an inpenetratable seal and if the hub can tur on the axle, there is a break in the seal. Oil will escape and you wil be left with a poorly lubricated bearing. The little hole with the spring clip cover is meant for grease. Yo can find a small injector that uses a tube of grease at some bik stores. A bit of grease injected every so often will keep majo service to a minimum. I know some people think grease is a drag but so is relubing with oi and keeping the oil off the brake track. You will not be able t measure a time difference despite what professional racing tea mechanics say. They get new wheels each year. You pay for any ne equipment. Grease is cheaper than an overhaul. BTW, make sure to clean the hubs after relubing. The adage that suc grease is to be left on is a misnomer. The great seals used today kee grit migration to a minimum -- Weisse Luft |
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These are ball bearings. Use grease as it will stay put. First of all there is no such thing as an inpenetratable seal and if the hub can tur on the axle, there is a break in the seal. Oil will escape and you wil be left with a poorly lubricated bearing. The little hole with the spring clip cover is meant for grease. Yo can find a small injector that uses a tube of grease at some bik stores. A bit of grease injected every so often will keep majo service to a minimum. I know some people think grease is a drag but so is relubing with oi and keeping the oil off the brake track. You will not be able t measure a time difference despite what professional racing tea mechanics say. They get new wheels each year. You pay for any ne equipment. Grease is cheaper than an overhaul. BTW, make sure to clean the hubs after relubing. The adage that suc grease is to be left on is a misnomer. The great seals used today kee grit migration to a minimum -- Weisse Luft |
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These are ball bearings. Use grease as it will stay put. First of all there is no such thing as an inpenetratable seal and if the hub can tur on the axle, there is a break in the seal. Oil will escape and you wil be left with a poorly lubricated bearing. The little hole with the spring clip cover is meant for grease. Yo can find a small injector that uses a tube of grease at some bik stores. A bit of grease injected every so often will keep majo service to a minimum. I know some people think grease is a drag but so is relubing with oi and keeping the oil off the brake track. You will not be able t measure a time difference despite what professional racing tea mechanics say. They get new wheels each year. You pay for any ne equipment. Grease is cheaper than an overhaul. BTW, make sure to clean the hubs after relubing. The adage that suc grease is to be left on is a misnomer. The great seals used today kee grit migration to a minimum -- Weisse Luft |
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apoman- What would be recommended, and compatible lubes/oils for these hubs?
BRBR Grease is just oil in soap. Use any decent grease and you won't go wrong, synthetic or other. As for the oil/grease ports, you can squirt grease in there periodically but it is NOT a substitute for a take apart type overhaul. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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apoman- What would be recommended, and compatible lubes/oils for these hubs?
BRBR Grease is just oil in soap. Use any decent grease and you won't go wrong, synthetic or other. As for the oil/grease ports, you can squirt grease in there periodically but it is NOT a substitute for a take apart type overhaul. Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Mark wrote in message . .. Hi Folks, On my new build up, I'm using new Record 32H Hubs front, and rear, with Mavic Open Pro Silver Rims (Wheelsmith built gold label) What would be recommended, and compatible lubes/oils for these hubs? I wouldn't want to perhaps use the wrong type Oils/greases, and possibly damage any seals that may be incorporated in these hubs. (Synthetic or Petrol Based?) Another question I have pertains to the Oil Ports on these Hubs. I've heard that racers primarily use these, but should I, as an average user concern myself with injecting Oil into these? With my way of thinking, I would think after a fresh grease relube, and adjustment of hubs, maybe perhaps just 2 drops of oil per hub would in effect slightly "Cut" the viscosity of the grease, making for a slightly "Faster Wheel". Maybe any more than this amount would start to compromise the protection/effectiveness of the grease for the bearings/races? Is this correct thinking? Thanks, Mark D. 3in1 Cycle oil. That is an oil hole. The grease does not protect the bearings it is the oil that does that. Grease is a combination of a soap and oil. The 'soap' acts like a sponge and retains the oil. It is perfectly acceptable to add oil to grease in this application. The grease also retains the debris from the wear of the bearings. A caution when lubrication consists solely of oil, that is without grease. The bearing units of most bicycles allow the bike to be stood without dripping oil. If however the bike is put on its side, the oil will fall out of the bearing. The resistance to turn is a good way of determining if there is enough oil. The grease will need replacing to remove the wear debris say after the first 10 000 miles and then hardly ever afterwards. Trevor |
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Mark wrote in message . .. Hi Folks, On my new build up, I'm using new Record 32H Hubs front, and rear, with Mavic Open Pro Silver Rims (Wheelsmith built gold label) What would be recommended, and compatible lubes/oils for these hubs? I wouldn't want to perhaps use the wrong type Oils/greases, and possibly damage any seals that may be incorporated in these hubs. (Synthetic or Petrol Based?) Another question I have pertains to the Oil Ports on these Hubs. I've heard that racers primarily use these, but should I, as an average user concern myself with injecting Oil into these? With my way of thinking, I would think after a fresh grease relube, and adjustment of hubs, maybe perhaps just 2 drops of oil per hub would in effect slightly "Cut" the viscosity of the grease, making for a slightly "Faster Wheel". Maybe any more than this amount would start to compromise the protection/effectiveness of the grease for the bearings/races? Is this correct thinking? Thanks, Mark D. 3in1 Cycle oil. That is an oil hole. The grease does not protect the bearings it is the oil that does that. Grease is a combination of a soap and oil. The 'soap' acts like a sponge and retains the oil. It is perfectly acceptable to add oil to grease in this application. The grease also retains the debris from the wear of the bearings. A caution when lubrication consists solely of oil, that is without grease. The bearing units of most bicycles allow the bike to be stood without dripping oil. If however the bike is put on its side, the oil will fall out of the bearing. The resistance to turn is a good way of determining if there is enough oil. The grease will need replacing to remove the wear debris say after the first 10 000 miles and then hardly ever afterwards. Trevor |
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Trevor Jeffrey wrote:
That is an oil hole. Campagnolo clearly describe it as a "greasing hole" in their instructions and that "grease" should be "injected" into the hole. ~PB |
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"Pete Biggs" wrote in message ... Trevor Jeffrey wrote: That is an oil hole. Campagnolo clearly describe it as a "greasing hole" in their instructions and that "grease" should be "injected" into the hole. You mean like here (scroll down to p.17, greasing): http://www.campagnolo.com/pdf/178-FI...ost%202000.pdf |
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