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On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil
soon enough.

It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this
by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok to
litter.

How about when you ride the road? Would you have us believe that you
have never witnessed your banana peel land on someone's leaf-pile, or
at the foot of a garbage can brought out to the street, or heard it
wad up against the rear window of a parked pickup truck?


As I wrote earlier I do not chuck my banana peels or anything else for
that matter into the environment and I find people who do so anti-social.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-09-27 13:43, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:


[...]

... And the
neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could
leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came
directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the
glass door and having 8" on him.


That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike
inside.

When I return from a hard ride and have a Belgian Ale I recover quite rapidly.

In the bay area you get what you get.


Move to a nicer area. During yesterday's ride I parked my MTB here and
"re-hydrated":

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...om?format=750w

Also discovered a new route into the valley away from fast motor
vehuicle traffic but that one requires MTB use.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being soil
soon enough.

It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing this
by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok to
litter.

How about when you ride the road? Would you have us believe that you
have never witnessed your banana peel land on someone's leaf-pile, or
at the foot of a garbage can brought out to the street, or heard it
wad up against the rear window of a parked pickup truck?


As I wrote earlier I do not chuck my banana peels or anything else for
that matter into the environment and I find people who do so anti-social.

And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it. But I personally do not carry such things with me like an orange or a banana.

But sitting even in coffee shops I find that virtually everyone leaves their crap for someone to clean up while I always put trash in the trash can and put the dishes into the dirty dish container. I have never been able to break anyone of the habit of simply walking off even when they F-ing walk past the trash can on their way to their bikes.

On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:36:34 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 13:43, wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:29 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 08:28, wrote:


[...]

... And the
neighborhoods I was riding through were not the sorts where you could
leave your bike to go into a store. The one place I did it a guy came
directly over to my bike until he saw me on the other side of the
glass door and having 8" on him.


That is why I do not patronize stores that do not let me take my bike
inside.

When I return from a hard ride and have a Belgian Ale I recover quite rapidly.

In the bay area you get what you get.


Move to a nicer area. During yesterday's ride I parked my MTB here and
"re-hydrated":

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...om?format=750w

Also discovered a new route into the valley away from fast motor
vehuicle traffic but that one requires MTB use.

Believe me, if I didn't have an older brother to cart around to doctors and my wife didn't have grandchildren to baby sit I'd be living in Phoenix right not among people who have like minds. Though my cop friend can't drink because of his heart problem. He used strict diet and total abstinence to stop taking medication and a Federal Investigator has a whole lot of will-power.

On 2017-09-28 07:39, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip

A banana peel is plant material and will return to being
soil soon enough.

It will not. Nor will orange peels. Don't get caught doing
this by a park ranger or police officer. It's a hefty fine.


As it should be. I find it said that some people think it's ok
to litter.

How about when you ride the road? Would you have us believe that
you have never witnessed your banana peel land on someone's
leaf-pile, or at the foot of a garbage can brought out to the
street, or heard it wad up against the rear window of a parked
pickup truck?


As I wrote earlier I do not chuck my banana peels or anything else
for that matter into the environment and I find people who do so
anti-social.

And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates to be part of
nature and haven't any problems with it.


I do have a problem with that:

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...tains-scotland

Also, it's not a native plant in this area and could be harmful to some
wildlife.


... But I personally do not
carry such things with me like an orange or a banana.


I don't either but in case I do I make sure I pack out everything I take
with me. 100%.


But sitting even in coffee shops I find that virtually everyone
leaves their crap for someone to clean up while I always put trash in
the trash can and put the dishes into the dirty dish container. I
have never been able to break anyone of the habit of simply walking
off even when they F-ing walk past the trash can on their way to
their bikes.


Beats me why people do that. I find it disrespectful. Even when sitting
at a table in a pub instead of at the bar I always bring the glass back
to the bar. The other riders do the same.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip
-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2017-09-28 12:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip
-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?


And also, where? The grossest thing is human poop right on the
singletrack. I was able to dodge it just in time. Yuck. Some people are
unfit to live within a society.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 9/28/2017 2:25 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-28 12:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip
-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?


And also, where? The grossest thing is human poop right on
the singletrack. I was able to dodge it just in time. Yuck.
Some people are unfit to live within a society.


I just hate that and the usual, "Hey dude it's organic."

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 2017-09-28 12:50, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 2:25 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-28 12:20, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7,
Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip
-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?


And also, where? The grossest thing is human poop right on
the singletrack. I was able to dodge it just in time. Yuck.
Some people are unfit to live within a society.


I just hate that and the usual, "Hey dude it's organic."


Unfortunately a lot of cyclists have other behavior issues as well.
Sunday I was riding along a MUP and saw a woman and her small dog. She
looked a bit shaken so I stopped and inquired. Turns out the two
cyclists who had come the other way at high speed had yelled at her to
get out of the way. "So now I and my dog have to walk on the dirt". I
told her she doesn't have to do that, it's also her path, to ignore such
cyclists and that they were probably jerks.

Car drivers aren't far behind. Yesterday during a MTB ride I was walking
around in the lanes of a county road, signaling a driver to slow down.
He honked and floored it. A 2nd driver stopped and inquired, as is
appropriate. I was picking up two dozen thick lag screws up to 4" long
that were strewn across both lanes. Must have dropped off a truck. It
was a curve and those could have even caused a car driver to lose
control because hitting so much hardware can be like entering a sheet of
ice. Why are some people so nuts?

I don't think I'll have to buy lag screws anytime soon :-)

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

AMuzi wrote:
On 9/28/2017 9:39 AM, wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2017 at 7:32:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-27 15:12, Doug Landau wrote:
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 4:38:56 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-09-26 15:16, sms wrote:
On 9/26/2017 2:10 PM, Doug Landau wrote:

snip
-more snip-
And I find that dumping material that bio-disintegrates
to be part of nature and haven't any problems with it.

OK in theory I suppose but where do you draw the line?
Half a hamburger? Fish heads? Dog poop?

To avoid killing children (or dogs,) better don't drop anything:
https://sherbrooktimes.com/pesticide-a-pre-teen-dies-after-eating-a-tangerine/3443