What - Intelligent Thought?

Kveck Schwartz-bot wrote:

"they're gonna come take my stuff!"

I reckon you love the beauty of the income tax. In some contorted way
of thinking, you've decided that seizing assets at the instant of
transfer is somehow not seizing them at all.

Dooiii

William Asher wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:

Speaking of which, that's the reason why conservatives have begun the
Conservapedia as an alternative to the anti-Christian and
anti-American Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Example...s_in_Wikipedia

I like this entry:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Saddam_Hussein

http://www.conservapedia.com/index.p...ex&oldid=15197

"SLAVE of THE STATE" wrote in message
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On Feb 22, 8:26 am, Curtis L. Russell wrote:

Its just unlike you and Stateslave, I don't
mind helping someone else - without penalty,
without punishment, just helping.

The Russell Schwartz-Bot is in an infinite delusion loop. What can
break the loop?!

Not once have I ever made a single comment about not helping others,
or that people should not be helped. It is a total fabrication.

To really gripe your ass, I'll tell you another weakness. I carry two
dollar bills in my right hand pocket and three in the center
compartment of my Prius, so I have no excuse for not giving when
someone on the street asks me for a handout.

That more delusion. No one has made any comment or criticism of you
doing whatever the **** you want with your money.

His delusions seem to imply that because he gives away his money others
should be more willing than he to do so. In fact, so willing that they won't
complain when it is taken from them by force.

On Feb 21, 11:58 pm, "
wrote:
Hap Shaughnessy is also a contender:http://tinyurl.com/2ohqle

You have to give Tom points for stubbornness or
something, 'cause he always picks his opposite number's
area of expertise. He argues aboutSIGINTwith Curtis,
planetary atmospheres with me, GI armor with Bill, ocean
temperatures with Bill Asher, health care with Chung,
masters racing with Chang, TT'ing with Kevin Metcalfe ...

I mean, if he mixed it up and argued aboutSIGINTwith
me, TT'ing with Bill, body armor with Chung, and planets
with Curtis, maybe he'd win one, but he refuses to take
the easy way out. I respect that kind of integrity.
Also, this might require his victims to argue on subjects
of which they are ignorant, but that's trespassing on
Tom's area of expertise.

Ben- Hide quoted text -

Hey Ben
Here's a great article that really explains why I get SO ****ed off
at Kunich and those clowns running the current government and DOD:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...,1122472.story

A higher calling than duty
Mark Daily wrote on MySpace that he joined the Army to help the
suffering people of Iraq. In death, his words have become a call to
service.
By Teresa Watanabe, Times Staff Writer
February 16, 2007

Here's one paragraph that resonates for me:

One thing is certain, as disagreeable or as confusing as my decision
to enter the fray may be, consider what peace vigils against genocide
have accomplished lately. Consider that there are 19-year-old soldiers
from the Midwest who have never touched a college campus or a protest
who have done more to uphold the universal legitimacy of
representative government and individual rights by placing themselves
between Iraqi voting lines and homicidal religious fanatics.
Oftentimes it is less about how clean your actions are and more about
how pure your intentions are.
re's one paragraph that resonates for me:

He's not really all that uncommon. More articulate, and better
educated than most for sure, but exactly what a US military
professional should be and frequently is. They just don't get press
coverage, and don't want it.
Bill C

This is what we get instead:
http://www.military.com/features/0,1...ESRC=dod-bz.nl

Billions Needed for New Armored Trucks
InsideDefense.com NewsStand | Jason Sherman | February 16, 2007
The Army and Marine Corps are $5 billion short of what they require in
fiscal year 2008 to acquire a fleet of armored vehicles designed to
provide better protection against roadside bombs -- the scourge of
U.S. forces in Iraq -- than the current fleet of humvees.

The two services have spelled out this "unfunded requirement" to Rep.
Duncan Hunter (R-CA), ranking member of the House Armed Services
Committee, who asked all of the service chiefs to inform Congress of
where more money is required.

The Army and Marine Corps -- which are shouldering the lion's share of
the work in Iraq and Afghanistan and suffering the largest proportion
of casualties from roadside bombs -- indicated in separate responses
to Hunter that their No. 1 unfunded procurement need is for
substantial sums to acquire thousands of Mine Resistant Ambush
Protection Vehicles.

snipped

U.S. and allied forces have employed Force Protection's Cougar and
Buffalo mine-protection vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2003.
These vehicles have withstood 2,000 IED and mine attacks during these
missions, according to the statement.

"These vehicles are a highly effective, proven solution to counter
IEDs and other explosive threats," Capt. Jeff Landis, a spokesman for
Marine Corps Systems Command, said in the company statement. "No other
vehicle has matched those of Force Protection for safety in the
field."

So they started to field some in 2003 and found them to work well. In
2007 they are sill fighting to get funding to buy what they need.
They've wasted and lost track of more much more money than that, Bush
just keeps writing checks on the American taxpayer, but for what?

Tell me Bill, were the BANZAI charges of the Japanese during WW II religious
fanaticism? What makes you and people like you use the "religion" excuse for
such actions instead of reality? When the Spartans threw themselves
suicidally against the approaching Persians do you suppose it was religious
ferver or fear of what would happen if the Persians invasion was completed?

On Feb 21, 9:41 am, "Bill C" wrote:
On Feb 21, 9:05 am, Curtis L. Russell wrote:





On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 04:03:30 GMT, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com
wrote:

Give me a break. I worked for the largest engineering consulting firm in the
world and did some speech recognician work. Using that term is a sure sign
that you don't understand what the hell you're talking about.

Bull****, Mr. Bull. I can point out where I worked at NSA. The
unclassified part of my orders says that I worked as a Chinese radio
intercept at the 7th R.R.F.S. in Ramasun, Thailand. It really
happened. No make believe - why would I, nothing special about it.
Went there a Spec 5, left a SSG with a couple of ordinary ribbons.

I live about ten miles from NSA now and have several neighbors and
friends that work at NSA. I know the group that my source works now.
This isn't even particularly interesting stuff to them (again, this is
not classified stuff and not hard to find referenced in tech
magazines). And, for the record, it isn't some vast program from their
point of view. It is something that can be done, but mostly if they
are following up on an event with a known connection. I got the
impression that they wouldn't expect to ever bother to use it. Just a
tool available.

Gives a name of the company, the name of the project, the name of a
supervisor that you worked for. Tell me when and why in your miserable
opinion nothing has changed since you made your, well, lets call it
'contribution'. Until then, I will consider you nothing but Mr. Bull.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Why didn't I have any problem knowing exactly what you were talking
about. That, using those terms, was exactly the shop talk from our
analysts and intercept folks.
As you pointed out a lot of this is out there in unclassified sources
and on the net too. What isn't is the day to day conversation, shop
terms, nicknames for ****, etc...
You'd think that Tom would know what a "DittyBop" was, right?
Bill C- Hide quoted text -

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Just as general info, "Ditty Bop" is the nickname for a " Morse
intercept", "Morse code intercept", technician, specialist, etc... the
terminology varies, but the handle is at least as old as the Korean
war and I see the army still has an MOS for it:
http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...ant/bl352h.htm

Army Warrant Officer Jobs

MOS 352H - Morse Intercept Technician

Duties: Manages the personnel and technical assets of INSCOM intercept/
EW activities. Coordinates, plans, and supervises personnel engaged in
intercept activity. Knows analytical techniques and has training and
experience in COMINT and EW. Conducts training of and employment of
Morse intercept equipment and personnel. Establishes work schedules
and evaluates training and performance of personnel. Conducts a
continual training program to ensure Morse personnel are adept at
their MOS. Advises the commander and staff officers on employment and
deployment of Morse intercept operations. Conducts studies, analysis,
and evaluation of collection evaluation statistics and is prepared to
present results to commander. Must know antenna theory and wave
propagation.


The enlisted is MOS 352Q
That gets confusing especially when you've got several different
branches and countries' folks together at the same place.
"Ditty Bop" is universal.
Bill C

Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 21 Feb 2007 14:27:46 -0800, "SLAVE of THE STATE"
wrote:


I nominate that for the most disgusting comment of the day.


And what disgusts me is the need on the part of Calvinists (of any
religious stripe) and "pure capitalist" in punishing people,
especially when it comes to support programs. What sickens me almost
as much is that the punishments primarily introduce inefficiencies
into the programs and damage or destroy peoples' lives - for no other
reason than the "Cal and cap" group can feel happier or more satisfied
that 'those people' aren't getting anything without pain.

Of course, the fact is most people in the U.S. also support our form
of quasi-socialism. You obviously need to find somewhere else to live
your fantasy life. Perhaps you can find an island somewhere.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

I made that comment to my wife (an RN) that it is funny as hell that
people in this country:
1 - Accuse you of being a Communist if you support something like
National Health Care (Get it RIGHT, morons! It is Socilaism!)

2 - This country (i.e. the Govt) has been practicing various forms of
Socialism for YEARS! Socail Security, Medicare/Medicaid, UNEMPLOYMENT
INSURANCE!

My wife just shakes her head at them and laughs.

Donald Munro wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:

Speaking of which, that's the reason why conservatives have begun the
Conservapedia as an alternative to the anti-Christian and anti-American
Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Example...s_in_Wikipedia


Can't be much good; there doesn't appear to be an entry for Kunich
detailing all the fields he is an expert in:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Special...h=kunich&go=Go


I would say 'Screw all NeoCons...', but that would mean I have to touch
Mann Coulter. ~shudder~

Robert Chung wrote:
William Asher wrote:

Robert Chung wrote:


Speaking of which, that's the reason why conservatives have begun the
Conservapedia as an alternative to the anti-Christian and
anti-American Wikipedia:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Example...s_in_Wikipedia

I like this entry:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Saddam_Hussein


http://www.conservapedia.com/index.p...ex&oldid=15197


They forgot an entry:
"Something that good Conservatives dont do."

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:26:07 +0100, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

wrote:

You have to give Tom points for stubbornness or
something, 'cause he always picks his opposite number's
area of expertise. He argues about SIGINT with Curtis,
planetary atmospheres with me, GI armor with Bill, ocean
temperatures with Bill Asher, health care with Chung,
masters racing with Chang, TT'ing with Kevin Metcalfe ...

It's part of a larger pattern among nutbars to insist that having studied or
worked in a field actually disqualifies one from expertise. That's because
science has a well-known liberal bias.

It's not just science thats' biased -- reality has a liberal bias.

--
JT
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