Paint or strip your bike inexpensively

Kyle.B.H. Wrote:
jose1 wrote:
Anyone interested in finding out how to paint or strip their bike
inexpensively with professional results?



Yes! Yes? So what's your advice?
I placed a thread with ful instructuions for stripping and painting
your frame in rec.bicycles.tech area. check it out it 8 spaces down
from the top of page. If you have any questions contact me.


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jose1

Wrote:
Sure, why not? John
I posted full instructions on how to strip and paint your frame in
rec.bicycles.tech area. It's under jose1 8 spaces from the top of the
page.


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jose1

Wrote:
Yes!

Lewis.

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Check out rec.bicylces.tech area I posted full instructions there.
It's under Jose1


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jose1

Kyle.B.H. Wrote:
jose1 wrote:
Anyone interested in finding out how to paint or strip their bike
inexpensively with professional results?



Yes! Yes? So what's your advice? I placed full instructions in the rec.bicycles.tech forum under jose1
"instructions for painting your frame". One of the readers brought up a
good point that I did not talk about thoroughly. Using protective gear
when you paint. Check out my response to that thread.

If you are going to paint your frame and you have further questions
contact me I will set you up with anything you need. I do suggest that
you do a little reading on your own. Check out books By Jon Kosmoski,
on custom painting techniques. He's been in the business for 30 years
plus.


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jose1

A Muzi Wrote:
"jose1" wrote in message
...
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stripped the bike. Which I reccomend using a product called
*Tal-Strip*
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condition the frame with *Dupont metal conditioner 5717s.
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dry the frame off. Then you have to paint itwith a sandable
*"etching primer"
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put your base coat (color) on.

Mike Beauchamp wrote:
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I think as soon as i buy my new bike, the first thing I'm
going to do
is design a paint job for it and paint it up.


As with auto and motorcycle paint, if you have a basically
sound substrate you're usually better off sanding out the
damaged areas, wetsanding the rest and painting over the
factory finish. Most bike manufacturers paint clean
prepared metal in a controlled environment and get better
primer-to-metal adhesion than you can achieve at home.
Moreover, wetsanding an existing finish will save you
several coats and several sanding sessions for any given
level of smoothness.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
Thats somewhat true. Automakers have electronic means of coating
thier automobiles with with primer. A person painting at home could
never dream of coming close to that same coating. However, with a bike
manafactuer I wouldn't think there methods of primering or base coating
are that much different from what one could do at home. If you by good
etching primer that would have to spray through a gun you should be able
to achieve the same quality coat as the pros do.


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jose1

(jose1) Wrote much more but
I edited it to the essentials:

Mike, it's not as hard as he makes it
sound. Once you have stripped the bike.
Which I recommend using a product
called *Tal-Strip*. They use it in the auto
and aviation industry. It takes paint off in
15 to 30 minutes without harming the
metal.

Fine, I understand why you wouldn't want to use certain chemicals which
may adversely affect the metal. So why do you subscribe to using a
primer that partially dissolves it?

*Second, *you have to dry the frame off.
Then you have to paint it with a sandable
*"etching primer"*. The etching primer
microscopically bites into the metal
causing a bond between the primer and
frame. Other primers do not have this
biting action. Then you can put your base
coat (color) on.

Did I miss something? I'm not a metallurgist or professional painter.
But i would think that a substance that is designed to etch (soften,
dissolve) metal would be far worse than one that is only designed to act
on the old paint!

An auto body is not a major structural
component like a bicycle frame is.

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"May you have the wind at your back.
And a really low gear for the hills!"

Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

Chris'Z Corner
http://www.geocities.com/czcorner

Chris Zacho The Wheelman wrote:

(jose1) Wrote much more but
I edited it to the essentials:


Mike, it's not as hard as he makes it
sound. Once you have stripped the bike.
Which I recommend using a product
called *Tal-Strip*. They use it in the auto
and aviation industry. It takes paint off in
15 to 30 minutes without harming the
metal.


Fine, I understand why you wouldn't want to use certain chemicals which
may adversely affect the metal. So why do you subscribe to using a
primer that partially dissolves it?


*Second, *you have to dry the frame off.
Then you have to paint it with a sandable
*"etching primer"*. The etching primer
microscopically bites into the metal
causing a bond between the primer and
frame. Other primers do not have this
biting action. Then you can put your base
coat (color) on.


Did I miss something? I'm not a metallurgist or professional painter.
But i would think that a substance that is designed to etch (soften,
dissolve) metal would be far worse than one that is only designed to act
on the old paint!

An auto body is not a major structural
component like a bicycle frame is....

What primers do aircraft painter’s use on aluminium (where the
structural integrity of the skin is often of importance)?

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

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