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On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:01:45 +1000, F Murtz
wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. Naturally. Why in the blue **** would some juridictions allow cyclists to sit in the middle of the lane? |
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:19:44 +1000, F Murtz
wrote: F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. OOPS again (note to self should research before hitting button)Seems to refer to bicycle lanes LOL. Now it gets even more absurd. So you've just assumed all this stuff? May I ask why? I can not find any law in Tasmania What do you want to know? If you mean where cyclists are supposed to ride on public roads is as close to the left as is possible. Drivers are meant to give them 1 to 2m clearance in Tas. and most states that stops a bicycle riding in the centre of a lane except when it refers to bicycle lanes Mate, there's no freaking 'bicycle lanes' in the country/bush. |
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Talkback one eyed lunatics.
Jeßus wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:01:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. Naturally. Why in the blue **** would some juridictions allow cyclists to sit in the middle of the lane? Most jurisdictions have a rider, "if practicable"which would cover many things. They are allowed if they have a reason.which may be a number of things including bad surface at the edge etc,If there are two bicycles side by side at least one would be at the centre. It would also seem strange that it seem that motor cycles do not have to keep to the left when cars and bicycles are supposed to. |
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Talkback one eyed lunatics.
Jeßus wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2015 10:40:21 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane Umm, Jesus. Where do I start here with this? 1: They are NOT permitted to be in the middle of the lane (Where in the hell are you getting that from?). They are required to keep as close to the left of the lane as is possible. Which may be the centre in some cases. 2: You describe a life threatening situation as an 'inconvenience'. Are you just trolling these days? and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. Mate, you're not well. |
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"Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:19:44 +1000, F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. OOPS again (note to self should research before hitting button)Seems to refer to bicycle lanes LOL. Now it gets even more absurd. So you've just assumed all this stuff? May I ask why? I can not find any law in Tasmania What do you want to know? If you mean where cyclists are supposed to ride on public roads is as close to the left as is possible. Drivers are meant to give them 1 to 2m clearance in Tas. and most states that stops a bicycle riding in the centre of a lane except when it refers to bicycle lanes Mate, there's no freaking 'bicycle lanes' in the country/bush. Wrong, we have a few. |
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On 15/05/15 21:30, Rod Speed wrote:
Mate, there's no freaking 'bicycle lanes' in the country/bush. Wrong, we have a few. Not many though. I've been investigating routes that would take me out of Brisbane and into NSW. So far it's a 50-50 toss between Spring Creek Road or The Lions Road. There's no inland cycle path that I know of, otherwise I'd gladly use it. |
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 20:44:25 +1000, F Murtz
wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:01:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. Naturally. Why in the blue **** would some juridictions allow cyclists to sit in the middle of the lane? Most jurisdictions have a rider, "if practicable"which would cover many things. They are allowed if they have a reason.which may be a number of things including bad surface at the edge etc,If there are two bicycles side by side at least one would be at the centre. Side by side? It would also seem strange that it seem that motor cycles do not have to keep to the left when cars and bicycles are supposed to. To me, the reason for that (and I AM assuming here) is that motorcycles can keep up with the flow of traffic whereas a bicycle generally cannot. |
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 20:45:48 +1000, F Murtz
wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 10:40:21 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane Umm, Jesus. Where do I start here with this? 1: They are NOT permitted to be in the middle of the lane (Where in the hell are you getting that from?). They are required to keep as close to the left of the lane as is possible. Which may be the centre in some cases. I don't care about 'some cases'. 2: You describe a life threatening situation as an 'inconvenience'. Are you just trolling these days? and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. Mate, you're not well. |
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Jeßus wrote:
On Fri, 15 May 2015 20:44:25 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Fri, 15 May 2015 11:01:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:33:45 +1000, F Murtz wrote: Jeßus wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 17:17:33 +1000, "Pelican" wrote: "Jeßus" wrote in message ... On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:28:49 +1000, F Murtz wrote: I do not know If any one has heard 2UE afternoon talkback, think his name is Justin smith,on the subject of bicycle rider registration, he seems manic on the subject and howls down anyone who has an opposite view to his, he seems to have the opinion that it is a foregone conclusion that we will have rider registration by the end of the year. He seems to have Duncan Gay (roads minister)on his side. He also has the opinion that bicycle ordinations should not be allowed representation at the soon to be,round table group on the subject with Duncan Gay because "they are going to say no to everything". His idea is registration of rider not bicycle with mandated fluoro jackets with number on the back. We would then be the only place in the world with it. It would almost mean the death knell for cycle riding. You might find a lot of people celebrating if that comes to pass. I know I certainly would be. I recently fitted cameras to all my vehicles, specifically because of lycra wearig cyclists who think theyre entitled to do whatever they please on country roads. The next rider who makes me choose between hitting him/her, or another innocent vehicle, or the roadside verge, is going to have a very bad day. Even if every rider was a suicidal ****wit, you should not be in a situation of making such a choice. I shouldn't be, as you say. The last incident that compelled me to install cameras was extremely dangerous and almost caused a head on collision with an oncoming car. Not only was the rider unapologetic, he fully denied being dead centre of my lane (even though he was, hence the cameras now)... this was on a tight bend, on a country road with barriers/rails on the LHS and a cutting to the right (oncoming car anyway so that wasn't an option either). That rider is very lucky to still be here. After 10 years living in the Sunshine Coast hinterland and now N.E Tas - both places very popular with riders - I've lost pretty much all tolerance for them. Too many incidents and far too consistently for my liking. You have me puzzled, why would a rider being dead centre of a lane cause a problem? was he coming toward you on the wrong side of the road? He was in my lane, going in my direction. The problem was he was in the middle of my lane and I couldn't veer into the oncoming lane because of an oncoming vehicle. I was *going* to veer into the other lane but thankfully I didn't (blind corner). I dunno, you've lost me a bit here if you can't see the problem? The problem is, regardless of the inconvenience of it a cyclist has every right to cycle in the middle of the lane and unless the law is changed it is one of the things up with which we must put, like wombats, tractors,and any other slow moving things,that is why emphasis is put on the dangers of blind curves. OOPS,Apparently some jurisdictions state that you must keep to the left when practicable on a bicycle. Naturally. Why in the blue **** would some juridictions allow cyclists to sit in the middle of the lane? Most jurisdictions have a rider, "if practicable"which would cover many things. They are allowed if they have a reason.which may be a number of things including bad surface at the edge etc,If there are two bicycles side by side at least one would be at the centre. Side by side? I think you will find that the law allows that. It would also seem strange that it seem that motor cycles do not have to keep to the left when cars and bicycles are supposed to. To me, the reason for that (and I AM assuming here) is that motorcycles can keep up with the flow of traffic whereas a bicycle generally cannot. I think that that it was not to do with speed but the practicable bit. Zebee Johnstone touched on it in an earlier post where she said, "The reason it doesn't apply to motorcyclists is due to some court cases about safety and the meaning of the word practicable. (I was involved in motorcycle lobbying in SA at the time the SA law was changed before the national road rules came in and helped with the defence of one of the riders.) I expect that should a cyclist be prosecuted for it they'll be playng the practical card. I certainly take the lane when it is not safe to stay left such as in a lane too narrow for safe passing and with no escape route for me if a car does crowd me." |
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