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Today, I was playing basketball with Dave. We established: 1. A player can ride out of bounds, back in bounds and continue play. 2. A player can dismount, mount and continue to play. 3. A player must have 3 pedal revolutions after the shot for it to count (I know #3 is oppossed to the official rules) 4. STEPS AND TRAVELING The player is allowed two steps. (9.2) WHAT HAPPENED: I was in possession of the ball, Dave was on defense. I attempted to make a shot and missed. After I missed, I wanted to make a tight turn, so I grabbed the goal post, swung around, got the ball, dribbled to half court and scored. A. Dave says the points should NOT count because I used the pole to make the turn. B. I say that it is okay to touch the pole as long as the player is NOT in possession of the ball. Likewise, I believe: 1. if the ball strikes the pole it is out of bounds. 2. If the player has the ball in 1 hand, and leans on the pole it is out of bounds. 3. In NBA basketball, a player can touch the pole as long as he does not have possession. The "Official Rules to be used at UNICON 10 for basketball" only addresses the matter in this way: "9.4 PLAYER ON UNICYCLE The player can only play the ball while mounted on the unicycle and not touching anything else for support. This applies to offense, defense, and during jump balls. As an exception to this rule, players may jump off the unicycle for slam dunks and to block shots, as long as the player is aware of where the unicycle will end up and that it will not cause a safety hazard. If another player is fouled by the player that jumped or gets hit by the abandoned unicycle, a flagrant foul will be called. The player throwing the ball inbound must be mounted." related: "A player shall not make a second dribble after having completed a dribble, unless the ball, when it is out of the player's control, has touched another player, or the opponents' basket or backboard, or has been batted out of the player's control by an opponent." QUESTION: Can a player without possession of the ball use the goal post for turning, balance, stopping, and making quick reverses (as long as the player is not in possession of the ball)? -- ChangingLINKS.com - member Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter, Drew Brown http://www.ChangingLINKS.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ChangingLINKS.com's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5468 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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I'm not a basketball expert here, so hopefully someone who plays more will respond. My interpretation, based on the rules you quoted, is yes. However, you quoted NBA rules. IUF Basketball rules default to "international rules," whatever those are. Since the goal post is not covered by the specific unicycle rules, it should be whatever is legal for international (Olympic?) basketball. What's with the riding out of bounds rule? This should only be allowed if the rider is not in possession of the ball. -- johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" www.unicycling.com "I should be wearing a helmet here -- so should you." -- George Peck, who prefers not to wear one, in the 1991 video Rough Terrain Unicycling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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We agree that a player WITH the ball cannot ride out of bounds. I meant to refer to players without possession. Thank you for responding John Foss. According to all of the search engines, you took the lead in developing the rules in 2000. I tried to PM to get you to post - but apparently you cannot be PMed. -- ChangingLINKS.com - member Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter, Drew Brown http://www.ChangingLINKS.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ChangingLINKS.com's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5468 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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In article t.Unicyclist.com,
ChangingLINKS.com clist.com wrote: ) )Today, I was playing basketball with Dave. ) )We established: )1. A player can ride out of bounds, back in bounds and continue play. )2. A player can dismount, mount and continue to play. )3. A player must have 3 pedal revolutions after the shot for it to )count )(I know #3 is oppossed to the official rules) )4. STEPS AND TRAVELING The player is allowed two steps. (9.2) I don't like #3 at all. It's really difficult for most people to stay on their unis after they take a shot, and really, what's the point anyway? In normal basketball you can take a shot and fall to the floor. )WHAT HAPPENED: )I was in possession of the ball, Dave was on defense. )I attempted to make a shot and missed. )After I missed, I wanted to make a tight turn, so I grabbed the goal )post, )swung around, got the ball, dribbled to half court and scored. ) ) ) )A. Dave says the points should NOT count because I used the pole to make )the turn. It counts. You can use the pole as long as you're not touching the ball at the time. (The pole is out of bounds). -Tom |
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That's right, I have PM turned off. I'm surprised the system doesn't somehow indicate that to users trying to PM me. But my email address is at the bottom of every post, which is hopefully enough. My friends and co-workers keep bugging me to set up an IM client on my machine, but until they can agree on which one, I continue to annoy them by sticking to email like some decrepit old person. I would ask basketball people. David Ramos occasionally posts here, or Teresa Abrahams. Or try to look up international basketball rules. -- johnfoss - Walkin' on the edge John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone "jfoss" at "unicycling.com" www.unicycling.com "I should be wearing a helmet here -- so should you." -- George Peck, who prefers not to wear one, in the 1991 video Rough Terrain Unicycling ------------------------------------------------------------------------ johnfoss's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/832 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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Or try to look up international basketball rules. I have searched for quite a bit of time and could not find the International/Olympic rules. Can anyone point me in the right direction? 3. A player must have 3 pedal revolutions after the shot for it to count I don't like #3 at all. It's really difficult for most people to stay on their unis after they take a shot, and really, what's the point anyway? In normal basketball you can take a shot and fall to the floor. We made up that rule because we had not seen the official rules and because we wanted shots to be "in control." Now, I know that the shot DOES have to be "in control" insofar as the player is responsible for not allowing the unicycle to fall in such a way that it harms others. (example: I can't spring off of my unicycle and purposely kick it backwards at a trailing defending player to do a slam dunk). -- ChangingLINKS.com - member Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter, Drew Brown http://www.ChangingLINKS.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ChangingLINKS.com's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5468 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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Go to http://www.fibaamerica.com/ and click on, "Rules," to get a copy of the international rules for basketball in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. The IUF supplementary rules for basketball are in Section 10 of the IUF rulebook (2004 edition). The IUF rulebook amy be found at http://www.unicycling.org/iuf/rulebook/ -- tadaniels - USA President ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tadaniels's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/352 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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I'm glad to know there are official rules. We say if you have the ball and are no longer riding, all you can do is pass the ball. You cannot shoot. Is there a rule for how much you must dribble? Like twice in ever 10 feet. Or what about "double dribble"? We often dribble some, then not, then dribble again. -- Memphis Mud - Student of GrandMaster 2T Mantra: Avoid Hitting Tailbone...Avoid Hitting Tailbone... "do not think, just ride"...muniracer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Memphis Mud's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1987 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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Memphis Mud wrote: *I'm glad to know there are official rules. We say if you have the ball and are no longer riding, all you can do is pass the ball. You cannot shoot. * I don't think that is covered in the rules. The way we played a player cannot touch the ball unless they are on their unicycle (including picking it up). [i] * Is there a rule for how much you must dribble? Like twice in ever 10 feet. Or what about "double dribble"? We often dribble some, then not, then dribble again. * This IS covered in the rules and works just like normal basketball. The player gets 2 pedal pushes after dribbling to take the shot. Like normal basketball, a player cannot dribble, stop dribbling and dribble again. Finally, a modification rule is that a player can take 3 idles (pedal strokes?) after catching the ball before dribbling. FREQUENCY of dribbling is the same as basketball, you can dribble as little as you like so long as you aren't palming the ball when it comes up or allowing the ball to be higher than your hand. (In other words, the rules of dribbling are the same). There is an advantage in unicycling because it seems that less dribbling is required for some reason. -- ChangingLINKS.com - member Wishing you Happiness, Joy and Laughter, Drew Brown http://www.ChangingLINKS.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ChangingLINKS.com's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/5468 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/32253 |
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In article yclist.com,
Memphis Mud . com wrote: ) )I'm glad to know there are official rules. ) )We say if you have the ball and are no longer riding, all you can do is )pass the ball. You cannot shoot. Our rule is that if you touch the ball when you're not on the uni, it's a turnover. )Is there a rule for how much you must dribble? Like twice in ever 10 )feet. Or what about "double dribble"? We often dribble some, then not, )then dribble again. You have to continuously dribble as long as you're moving. As soon as you pick up the dribble, you have to stop moving. (You can have a "pivot foot", which we define as idling in place). Once you've picked up the dribble, you can't dribble again (double dribble). "Picking up the dribble" includes touching the ball with both hands, or holding the ball by the bottom half with one hand. There's no rule about how fast you must dribble, as long as it's with just one hand at a time and with your hand on the top of the ball. -Tom |
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