Fresh satellite photos for bike path conditions?

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On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:11:17 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:30:07 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 5:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-10 16:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 1:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path? Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

Or maybe there is the outside chance someone reading this rode
Sacramento-Folsom or vice versa this week and could tell.

I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.


Here as well but I often use my own judgement and plow through,
especially on the MTB. Even if the BB submarines.

They have gates on the multi-use trails here, and they close them if
they are worried about flooding. And they also close some when there's
an event at Levi's stadium.

f*ckin a$$holes

But if the gates are NOT closed and someone gets hurt you can bet that the hurt someone or their relatives will sue because the gates weren't closed. If that person had ridden around the closed gates and got hurt they'ed still sue and with many recent wins they'd probably win too.

Re. the case of closing gates; it looks like a dmaned if you do it and dmaned if you don't do it. Next thing you know municipalities will be saying it's not worth the hassels and close the trails entirely.

Cheers

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:42:34 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:11:17 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:30:07 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 5:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-10 16:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 1:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path? Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

Or maybe there is the outside chance someone reading this rode
Sacramento-Folsom or vice versa this week and could tell.

I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.


Here as well but I often use my own judgement and plow through,
especially on the MTB. Even if the BB submarines.

They have gates on the multi-use trails here, and they close them if
they are worried about flooding. And they also close some when there's
an event at Levi's stadium.

f*ckin a$$holes

But if the gates are NOT closed and someone gets hurt you can bet that the hurt someone or their relatives will sue because the gates weren't closed. If that person had ridden around the closed gates and got hurt they'ed still sue and with many recent wins they'd probably win too.

Re. the case of closing gates; it looks like a dmaned if you do it and dmaned if you don't do it. Next thing you know municipalities will be saying it's not worth the hassels and close the trails entirely.

Cheers

It is mind boggling.

Granted it is a long time since I lived there but I have memories of a
self-sufficient people. Now apparently (from the posts here) they need
a nanny to tell them when the road is closed.

Or is that just in California ?

--
Cheers,

John B.

J, gotta rain report ?

On 2017-02-10 17:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 5:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-10 16:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 1:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to
know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain
unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images
detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path?
Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

Or maybe there is the outside chance someone reading this rode
Sacramento-Folsom or vice versa this week and could tell.

I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.


Here as well but I often use my own judgement and plow through,
especially on the MTB. Even if the BB submarines.

They have gates on the multi-use trails here, and they close them if
they are worried about flooding. And they also close some when there's
an event at Levi's stadium.


Here there is just the occasional fold-up sign on the path. Since the
authorities err way too much and too often on the cautious side cyclists
mostly circle around those and continue. I am sure I could scale that
rock slide by shouldering my bike but that can get expensive when Smokey
sees that.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-02-11 03:05, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
J, gotta rain report ?


It stopped and we'll have sunshine for several days now. Good riding
weather. But I ride rain or shine anyhow so doesn't matter to me.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-02-10 21:46, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:42:34 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:11:17 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:30:07 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 5:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-10 16:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 1:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path? Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

Or maybe there is the outside chance someone reading this rode
Sacramento-Folsom or vice versa this week and could tell.

I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.


Here as well but I often use my own judgement and plow through,
especially on the MTB. Even if the BB submarines.

They have gates on the multi-use trails here, and they close them if
they are worried about flooding. And they also close some when there's
an event at Levi's stadium.

f*ckin a$$holes

But if the gates are NOT closed and someone gets hurt you can bet that the hurt someone or their relatives will sue because the gates weren't closed. If that person had ridden around the closed gates and got hurt they'ed still sue and with many recent wins they'd probably win too.

Re. the case of closing gates; it looks like a dmaned if you do it and dmaned if you don't do it. Next thing you know municipalities will be saying it's not worth the hassels and close the trails entirely.

Cheers

It is mind boggling.

Granted it is a long time since I lived there but I have memories of a
self-sufficient people. Now apparently (from the posts here) they need
a nanny to tell them when the road is closed.

Or is that just in California ?


No, city folk, usually. Country folk is still (largely) like you
remember. The problem is a tort law "system" run amok. So people try to
make a buck when they screwed up and some ambulance chaser convinces
them that they can blame it on someone else with deep pockets. Because
of the ill-fated bounty method they are unfortunately allowed to offer
the financial risk to the suing party is zero. It shouldn't be.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Per sms:
I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.

I had a similar situation on my ride to one of my clients.

The bummer came when they'd close it while I was at work - leaving no
way to ride home without violating the closure.
--
Pete Cresswell

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article132154774.html

https://www.americanwhitewater.org/c...tail/id/10588/

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:08:28 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path? Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

I looked but didn't find anything. Plenty of weather satellite
imagery, but the resolution is insufficient to see riders or trail
obstructions and washouts. Even the new GOES-16 satellite won't do
it. Most counties have road closure web sites, but those only include
roads, not trails.

This is for later as it doesn't do much for you today. There are
waypoint following drones that follow a series of lat-long positions
and photograph what they see along the route.
https://www.dronezon.com/learn-about-drones-quadcopters/drone-waypoint-gps-navigation-technology-explained/
Program it for the trail route and you'll have an accurate answer
quite soon. The catch is that most controllers I've investigated only
allow 128 waypoints, which will be a problem for long and twisty
trails. You might consider selling the info to the park service or
just posting the trail condition videos. Also, you'll need a
commercial FAA drone license to do this.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558