Gas will be $4.00 a gallon by Monday 9-05…

On 2005-09-07, peter wrote:
Phil wrote:
Can you approximate an actual miles-per-dollar value?
...
You:
6 bagels = $1.80.
41.67 miles per dollar

20 mpg car:
6.67 miles per dollar

Where do you find "bagel-slathered-in-cooked-apples" at only 30 cents
each?

I've found that fuel costs for my Cannondale are generally as high per
mile as they were for my car. It got 35 - 45 mpg, so at today's
$3/gal. price that amounts to about 7.5 cents/mile. On my Cannondale a
100 mile ride requires an extra consumption of about 3000 kcal. so a
$2.50 Whopper is good for about 20 miles. That makes the cost 12.5
cents/mile. OTOH, refueling with a 2 L bottle of store-brand soda
(1140 kcal) lets me go almost 40 miles for 80 cents or only 2
cents/mile (but possibly higher dental bills later).

What a shame...do all that good for your body only to fill it with
garbage. Not to be insulting, but eating at BK or McD is bad. Might as
well carry a stick of butter around an use that as fuel.

Sock Puppet wrote:
On 6-Sep-2005, "Chalo" wrote:

I have to observe that probably 19 out of 20 gargantuan SUV's and
full-sized personal pickup trucks I see don't even carry a second
occupant, let alone a load of cargo that would require such an
outlandishly sized vehicle.

I want a SUV like this one http://www.organicengines.com/SUV/index.htm .

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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


I saw an add for a Yukon, stating that is had 'the best V8 mileage',
the little note at the bottom said it's milage was 15mpg
highway...geeezzz...


The Toyota Landcruiser gets 17mpg:
http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/specs.html

Per D. Sørensen

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 09:19:18 GMT, Chuck
wrote:

On 2005-09-07, Werehatrack wrote:
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 11:10:15 -0600, Llatikcuf
wrote:

Chuck wrote:

I get 45 mile a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

I like peanut butter sandwiches, have one every morning before I go to
class. I would consider this to be a clean fuel.

Burritos have a higher yield per gram in my experience, but I will
admit that they aren't as clean.

Maybe they are higher per gram but, I doubt per sandwich vs. burritos.
My samdwiches are on giant pieces of bread with the peanut butter 3/8"
thick.

You've never had a burrito from Taqueria Arandas. Their regular-size
version weighs a bit over a pound, and the large one is two meals for
a hungry teenager. Taco Bell burritos are just appetizers.
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Per peter:
Where do you find "bagel-slathered-in-cooked-apples" at only 30 cents
each?

I've found that fuel costs for my Cannondale are generally as high per
mile as they were for my car. It got 35 - 45 mpg, so at today's
$3/gal. price that amounts to about 7.5 cents/mile. On my Cannondale a
100 mile ride requires an extra consumption of about 3000 kcal. so a
$2.50 Whopper is good for about 20 miles. That makes the cost 12.5
cents/mile. OTOH, refueling with a 2 L bottle of store-brand soda
(1140 kcal) lets me go almost 40 miles for 80 cents or only 2
cents/mile (but possibly higher dental bills later).

This is getting interesting....
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:06:13 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote:



You've never had a burrito from Taqueria Arandas. Their regular-size
version weighs a bit over a pound, and the large one is two meals for
a hungry teenager.

Those should be called "burros."

JT

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On 2005-09-07, Per D. Sørensen wrote:
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


I saw an add for a Yukon, stating that is had 'the best V8 mileage',
the little note at the bottom said it's milage was 15mpg
highway...geeezzz...


The Toyota Landcruiser gets 17mpg:
http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/specs.html

Per D. Sørensen

That's an outright lie. T have 2 4runners and (4 and 6 cylinders) and
only get that on the highway. I get better mileage with my 1978 Toyota
Hilux RV than a 4runner. I'm sure LandCrusers are worse. BTW, anyone
have a 1970 Land Cruiser for sale?

Per D. Sørensen wrote:
Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


I saw an add for a Yukon, stating that is had 'the best V8 mileage',
the little note at the bottom said it's milage was 15mpg
highway...geeezzz...


The Toyota Landcruiser gets 17mpg:
http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/specs.html

Per D. Sørensen

Is that where 'YMMV' comes from? An article yesterday stated that
window MPG stickers might be off by 50%(and the actual MPG will be
lower, not higher). These numbers come from taking a vehicle and
putting it on a inside dynamometer, thing.not actual use.

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
wrote:


I saw an add for a Yukon, stating that is had 'the best V8 mileage',
the little note at the bottom said it's milage was 15mpg
highway...geeezzz...

I think the EPA rated mileage is 16/20. That would be with the smaller
V8 and 2WD. Of course, the majority of these vehicles are sold with 4WD
and the larger motor. As far as full size SUV's go, that's pretty
decent mileage. I've driven a Yukon several times. I love it. Much more
than the torqueless ULEV vtech Honda I drive. Anyway, I've gotten close
to the EPA highway mileage in the Yukon when driving on the interstate
in good conditions.

Chuck wrote:
On 2005-09-07, Per D. Sørensen wrote:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:


I saw an add for a Yukon, stating that is had 'the best V8 mileage',
the little note at the bottom said it's milage was 15mpg
highway...geeezzz...


The Toyota Landcruiser gets 17mpg:
http://www.toyota.com/landcruiser/specs.html

That's an outright lie. T have 2 4runners and (4 and 6 cylinders) and
only get that on the highway. I get better mileage with my 1978 Toyota
Hilux RV than a 4runner. I'm sure LandCrusers are worse. BTW, anyone
have a 1970 Land Cruiser for sale?

You will have to take that up with the EPA, they made the calculations.
BTW 17mpg is on the highway, it only gets 13 in the city. According
to the norwegian Toyota site it uses 1.34l on 10km, which is a little
better than 17mpg: http://www.toyota.no/showroom/land_c..._100/specs.asp

I have never driven one of those behemoths, but my experience with the
fuel economy numbers they use in advertising here is that they are
equal to what I get if I drive carefully. If I drive like a maniac
I don't get anywhere near the advertised numbers.

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Per D. Sørensen