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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182
Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? |
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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
Mr. Benn wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. |
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On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote:
Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, it can only worsen. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message
... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, I can understand that to an extent but if they get paid regardless of how much work they do, there are bound to be some lazy drivers who will do as little work as possible. |
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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
On 25/10/2011 13:02, Mr. Benn wrote:
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, I can understand that to an extent but if they get paid regardless of how much work they do, there are bound to be some lazy drivers who will do as little work as possible. No kidding! Which is a large part of the reasoning behind performance related pay. However, for the part where the driver is sitting in the seat and at the mercy of the roads and the traffic, I cannot see how it can be ethical to reward a driver for doing more trips or cover distances faster. It does answer though in part, why possibly so many of these type of vehicles are involved in cycling deaths (skip lorries, tipper trucks etc.). -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:42:04 +0100, Simon Weaseltemper
wrote: On 25/10/2011 13:02, Mr. Benn wrote: "Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, I can understand that to an extent but if they get paid regardless of how much work they do, there are bound to be some lazy drivers who will do as little work as possible. No kidding! Which is a large part of the reasoning behind performance related pay. Is that when you get paid inversely proportionally to the number of posts you make in work's time? -- Simple Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists. This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users. The actions of a true psycholist. |
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On Oct 25, 3:17*pm, Judith wrote:
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:42:04 +0100, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: On 25/10/2011 13:02, Mr. Benn wrote: "Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, I can understand that to an extent but if they get paid regardless of how much work they do, there are bound to be some lazy drivers who will do as little work as possible. No kidding! Which is a large part of the reasoning behind performance related pay. Is that when you get paid inversely proportionally to the *number of posts you make in work's time? Love sees sharply, hatred sees even more sharp, but Jealousy sees the sharpest for it is love and hate at the same time MBQ |
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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. If you mean the original 1957 film you are showing your age .. Is this the beginnings of Eddie Stobart? |
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What is it about tipper lorry drivers?
"Simon Weaseltemper" wrote in message ... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, it can only worsen. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. Taxi drivers may disagree with you. Some of those multi drop drivers have 120 deliveries per day and this *is* too much. |
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On 25/10/2011 15:42, Man at B&Q wrote:
On Oct 25, 3:17 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:42:04 +0100, Simon Weaseltemper wrote: On 25/10/2011 13:02, Mr. Benn wrote: "Simon wrote in message ... On 25/10/2011 09:37, Mrcheerful wrote: Mr. Benn wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15440182 Are they trained to the same standards as other HGV drivers? Small, rigid tippers over 7.5t are LGV2, the test is much easier than for the full blown LGV1 that is needed for any artic. and if you watch the film 'Hell Drivers' you will understand the pressure they are under to make lots of runs per shift. There is a good argument in there for banning performance related pay for any driving job whatsoever. People drive badly enough when they are under pressure to get places on time, if you add a financial incentive, I can understand that to an extent but if they get paid regardless of how much work they do, there are bound to be some lazy drivers who will do as little work as possible. No kidding! Which is a large part of the reasoning behind performance related pay. Is that when you get paid inversely proportionally to the number of posts you make in work's time? Love sees sharply, hatred sees even more sharp, but Jealousy sees the sharpest for it is love and hate at the same time I'm da boss anyway, well almost :-) -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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