Bikes on trains petitions

pasted from CTC forum - please support

If you want to take you bike on the train... you should sign this
government e-petition and write to your MP or the PM.

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/carboncycle/
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bikes-on-trains/


Gordon Brown does pay attention to these things.


--
CTC Right to Ride Rep. for Richmond upon Thames

Not sure about the cycle lanes bit personally.... given the typical
"cycle lane" provision round these 'ere parts (paint the left most bit
of the road green) I would be loath to think that more cycle lanes
would just more of this sort of "solution".

???

didds

On 27/07/2008 22:23, Paul Luton said,

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bikes-on-trains/

I've signed that one, but...

Gordon Brown does pay attention to these things.

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site that
has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed anything?
There must be some, surely.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:56:12 +0100, Paul Boyd wrote:

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site that
has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed anything?
There must be some, surely.

They took notice of the one that thousands of people signed (was it
the 'road user charging' one?) but I think their response was a cryptic "we
don't care what you think"

peter

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:56:12 +0100
Paul Boyd wrote:

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site
that has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed
anything? There must be some, surely.

Remember the Highway Code one? They *did* revise the worst clauses
of that.

http://bahumbug.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/we-won/

--
not me guv

Nick Kew wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:56:12 +0100
Paul Boyd wrote:

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site
that has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed
anything? There must be some, surely.

Remember the Highway Code one? They *did* revise the worst clauses
of that.

http://bahumbug.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/we-won/

The petition was part of the campaign, not the totality.

Many people wrote and visited MPs with a view to voting down the Highway
Code revision (only way for MPs to force a change at that stage).

The CTC lobbied hard behind the scenes.


I think a combination of efforts caused the government to included the
amendments.



As for successful petitions, I think the road pricing one might have had an
effect (even if I think the effect was detremental)



- Nigel

--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 01:44:42 +0100, Nick Kew
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:56:12 +0100
Paul Boyd wrote:

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site
that has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed
anything? There must be some, surely.

Remember the Highway Code one? They *did* revise the worst clauses
of that.

http://bahumbug.wordpress.com/2007/05/30/we-won/


what were considered the worse clauses - 61 and 63?

Nick Kew said the following on 29/07/2008 01:44:

Remember the Highway Code one? They *did* revise the worst clauses
of that.

OK - that petition may have helped in this case. It was part of a more
concerted campaign though.

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Nick Kew wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:56:12 +0100
Paul Boyd wrote:

Yeah? Can anyone point to just one, single petition on that site
that has influenced the government's thinking and actually changed
anything? There must be some, surely.

Remember the Highway Code one? They *did* revise the worst clauses
of that.

That wasn't the petition. It is quite usual for the government to bend
over backwards to accommodate the demands of cyclists, and particularly
those, like that one, made by the CTC.

Contrast that with the contempt with which they treat motorist
organisation requests, even those backed by huge petitions.

--
Matt B

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:50:57 +0100
"Nigel Cliffe" wrote:

As for successful petitions, I think the road pricing one might have
had an effect (even if I think the effect was detremental)

Do you think we could organise a campaign to reverse it?