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Tire liners vs slime
On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 23:32:47 GMT, wrote:
I'm a newbe, whats most of you prefer. I heard the tuffy liners are sharp on the ends, and if they move can slice a tire. Are the snakeskins any better. I have one bike with a stupidly difficult rim that makes removing a tire damn near impossible - it has a pre-slimed tube. Otherwise I wouldn't bother with any of that crap. Ron |
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Tire liners vs slime
I'm a newbe, whats most of you prefer. I heard the tuffy liners are sharp on the ends, and if they move can slice a tire. Are the snakeskins any better. slime. note on slime, apparently only useful for casual riding. Off-roading and fast speeds not compatible, dunno why, just what i read (manufacturer recommendation) |
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Tire liners vs slime
liners brand the tubes at overlap-rotate and inspect
slime tubes are terrific but only work when used with liners-captures the slime use 2 liners!!! slime tubes are repaired using superglue or NAPA cement-hang tube with hole up for 3-4 days then repair gently kevlar belts are de riguer-non kevlar belted tires are antiquo the liner will keep a tube in when the kevlar belt seperates and holes out from serious cuts i did all this and ran over a grassly median avoiding dirt from excavation- and ripped the sidewall with a buried broken bottle.... |
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Tire liners vs slime
John met you in florida at the 50 mile marker, I think you took his picture.
I ride with him touring during the summer. Cheers Dave "EdgeRider" wrote in message oups.com... wrote: Really good point Nate, I'll have to check the overlap on the liners something I never considered. A friend of mine crossed paths with a fellow touring around america - http://www.northamericacyclingexpedition.com/ He's running two tuffys in the rear tire he told him in that rear knobby tire with no flats, the the front one has no liner, and he's had six flats. I bet that rear wheel weighs a ton! Thank you for the tips everyone, I'm learning alot Hi drehus27...I am that rider...I had two tuffies in my rear tire since Delaware on my current perimeter tour of the USA and Canada and have not had one flat since. The only problem I had was hitting a hole which had been dug out of the pavement to access a survey cap and my wheel got dinked and had to replace it. But it wound up giving me a bunch of spare spokes! I ride 700cx38's. I am a self-contained rider so I keep tabs on the toatl weight factor for my rig...total 70-75lbs with trailer included! It's capacity is 200lbs but I don't want to Beverly Hillbilly it on this ride! Heading to San Diego from Ft. Meyers, FL. Who was your friend? Maybe I will remember him. My email is on the site. Remember...Not wearing a helmet is NOT COOL...even on a motorcycle. |
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Tire liners vs slime
I am a wrench, I have seen tuffie strips cause about 10-15 flats in the
years I've been changing flats. Every time I have changed a tire with a tuffie strip in it, the tuffie strip has been the cause of the flat, and normaly it's at the edge not at the end of the tuffie strip. Slime also causes flats, or rather it causes valve problems. The slime is suppost to work like your red blood cells do when you get a cut, small fibers in the slime will build up around the leak, causing it to stop leaking. The problem is those fibers get caught in your valve (schreader only) and prevent it from being able to seal. As for tuffies I don't belive that it would be a problem if any of those people had inflated a their tires more then once in there lives. A tire, tube, and rim are a very dynamic interface, in other words they move around, if you've ever seen a wheel with the valve pointing to a spoke on either side of it, that's why. As your tire losses air (all tires lose air that is natrual) your tire creaps around and often pulls the tube with it, that alone causes flats, insert a third object in there and now you have a serious chafing issue. All the flats I've seen from tuffie strips are not cuts so much as a chafe, ever rubbed a whole in a piece of paper with an eraser (I have real serious grammer and spelling issues, lmfao)? Well the same thing happens at the bottom of your wheel when you ride. The side wall of your tire compresses when it is under load. Use whatever you want to but I personally charge over twice the normal rate when I have to deal with a slime tube, and I flat out refuse to install tuffie strips. If you are worried about getting flats use thorn-proof tubes, they are 18 times thicker then normal tubes. Thorn-proof tubes are 4.5mm thick in the center under the tread, and normal tubes are .25mm thick, that's a HUGE diffrence. And you don't have to worry about getting slime in your eye, or on your shoes. One of my friends dropped off his bike for some brake work about 6 months after I talked him in to spending the extra $6 for thorn-proof tubes, and in front of him I picked out 3 pieces of glass and a wire from his rear tire, no flat. Other things you might want to think about, riding in the gutter is just asking for a flat. The draft from cars sweeps all the debris in the road to the side as they pass, that means if you ride on a busy road in the "bike lane" or in the gutter you are riding thru all the glass. If you notice you just ran over a patch of broken glass, put your shoe on your tire as you ride for a moment to brush it off, most pieces of glass do not cause a flat as soon as you run them over, they stick and then every time they hit the pavment they go in a little further. If you can find a route that has less traffic, and ride down the middle of the lane you will get less flats then someone who rides two blocks over in the "bike lane". p.s. I hate "bike lanes" what a joke. -Tim |
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Tire liners vs slime
On 21 Feb 2006 17:24:07 -0800, "
wrote: I am a wrench, I have seen tuffie strips cause about 10-15 flats in the years I've been changing flats. Every time I have changed a tire with a tuffie strip in it, the tuffie strip has been the cause of the flat, and normaly it's at the edge not at the end of the tuffie strip. I'm not a wrench. Guess I have been lucky as I've used Mr. Tuffies for over 10 years with no problems at all.... JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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