Once a doper,

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

Wiggins spiked on the rest days too, no ? Isn't that why these guys
rest in the first place, to recover ?

"Keith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

Wiggins spiked on the rest days too, no ? Isn't that why these guys
rest in the first place, to recover ?

Yeah, but since Wiggins wasn't expected to win it's OK for his body to react
normally. And if Lance wanted to dope wouldn't he move it closer to the 50%
limit? Instead he apparently is leaving his blood values completely normal.

On Sep 2, 7:28*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
"Keith" wrote in message

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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu....

Wiggins spiked on the rest days too, no ? Isn't that why these guys
rest in the first place, to recover ?

Yeah, but since Wiggins wasn't expected to win it's OK for his body to react
normally. And if Lance wanted to dope wouldn't he move it closer to the 50%
limit? Instead he apparently is leaving his blood values completely normal.

Lance is doping but this isn't a smoking gun

On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

Those values are within normal variation. In addition WADA allows an
'OFF-score' limit of 133 and Armstrong is well below that at 112 and
108.4 on 6/16 and 6/17.

Suspicious? Not really, unless you're a journalist looking for some
muck to rake. Did the top riders dope? They all used a variety of
performance enhancing techniques and substance, some legal, some not
defined, and some probably not so legal.

Nobody wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

Those values are within normal variation. In addition WADA allows an
'OFF-score' limit of 133 and Armstrong is well below that at 112 and
108.4 on 6/16 and 6/17.

Suspicious? Not really, unless you're a journalist looking for some
muck to rake. Did the top riders dope? They all used a variety of
performance enhancing techniques and substance, some legal, some not
defined, and some probably not so legal.


I want to know how the hell can he spend basically all of June in Aspen
(2400+ meters) and show up in Monaco with a 42.8 hct?

It makes no sense. Even if he started with a 48, he could lose a few
points and still end the race at 45 (assuming the standard accepted loss
of RBCs during the race).

"Susan Walker" wrote in message
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http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...ues-suspicious

what a useless article.

On 9/2/09 4:12 PM, in article ,
"Susan Walker" wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...-values-suspic
ious


Conspiracy wacko.....

On Sep 2, 9:13*pm, "Joe" wrote:
"Susan Walker" wrote in message

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http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu...

what a useless article.

"the danish are still upset over the donut."

from the embedded comments.

hee hee

-bdbafh

On Sep 2, 8:09*pm, z wrote:
Nobody wrote:
On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:12:33 +0200, Susan Walker
wrote:

http://nyvelocity.com/content/featur...our-blood-valu....

Those values are within normal variation. In addition WADA allows an
'OFF-score' limit of 133 and Armstrong is well below that at 112 and
108.4 on 6/16 and 6/17.

Suspicious? Not really, unless you're a journalist looking for some
muck to rake. Did the top riders dope? They all used a variety of
performance enhancing techniques and substance, some legal, some not
defined, and some probably not so legal.

I want to know how the hell can he spend basically all of June in Aspen
(2400+ meters) and show up in Monaco with a 42.8 hct?

It makes no sense. Even if he started with a 48, he could lose a few
points and still end the race at 45 (assuming the standard accepted loss
of RBCs during the race).

You know what you mean, but I don't and I read it twice.
What effect would you expect from spending the month of June living in
Aspen (8,000' in town-- well, just short of that) and doing training
rides at/to 12,000' (and more)? Hct up or down?

Then, what "doesn't make sense"?

Thank you.
--D-y