The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:18:16 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
news

Whom are you talking to? Yourself?


You seem to be the only one confused about whom he is speaking to. The
rest
of us figured it out before you pointed out his mistake.

No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.


I know I'm not a moron, you are questionable. No, we know you are a moron,
there's no question.

The fact that you don't know you are a moron PROVES you are a moron.
Everybody ELSE knows it.
--
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:22:52 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.



Would that be the same as you imagining you wrote a book, remember you
did state this previously...yet no evidence produced.

Or that you imagine yourself to be some great important martyr for
"the cause" while working for a company that rapes the environment in
the name of technology.

Or that you imagined you didn't fly to australia...but state you
walked to the airport...yet never admit to flying in the first
place...

Or like you imagine every time you post that picture of Mike VandeRman
running beside the bike, you try and claim that physical specimen as
you when everyone knows it isn' even close...

You malignant being.

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

wrote in message
...

No, you only IMAGINED that you figured it out. Just like you IMAGINED
that you aren't a moron.



Would that be the same as you imagining you wrote a book, remember you
did state this previously...yet no evidence produced.

Or that you imagine yourself to be some great important martyr for
"the cause" while working for a company that rapes the environment in
the name of technology.

Or that you imagined you didn't fly to australia...but state you
walked to the airport...yet never admit to flying in the first
place...

Or like you imagine every time you post that picture of Mike VandeRman
running beside the bike, you try and claim that physical specimen as
you when everyone knows it isn' even close...

You malignant being.


You have serious posting issues, OR you have killfiled Mike and reply to him
anyhow via the posts of others.

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

The fact that you don't know you are a moron PROVES you are a moron.
Everybody ELSE knows it.


Pot. Kettle. Black. Again.

..

You have serious posting issues, OR you have killfiled Mike and reply to him
anyhow via the posts of others.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
again, even though it isn't his Name! He's such an attention whore

Mike Vandeman wrote:
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:25 -0700
Subject: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

The best recommended comment from the story about Kelowna's illegal
mtb courses. The truth. It happens here, too -- not just in the USA
and California, etc., like the Mayor likes to remind me. This guy,
"Joe Public", could not have stated it better:

"I was the live-in caretaker on Knox Mountain for two years. This is a
city park and not a mountain bike course and the problem lies
completely with the mentality of the mountain bikers. The city parks
department went to great lengths to allow and accomodate mountain
bikers within the park by discussing needs with mountain bikers and by
creating authorised trails for them to use.

The problem is that most mountain bikers want to do what they want and
go where they want to go. They do not like to follow trails or remain
is selected areas, they like to create trails and jumps, and they are
destroying the park in the process.

I have personally spoken to several "leaders" of local mountain bike
clubs and several owners of local mountain bike stores. Up front they
claim to be supportive of the park rules, yet when they think that no
one is watching, they lead groups of riders down pristine park fields,
creating new trails which will continue to erode for decades, or they
sneak into the park after hours to ride with headlamps.

When approached on unauthorised trails, university educated riders
claim to have not seen the signs and curiously, the next time you
catch them on the same unauthorised trails, the signs have all been
knocked down. These same "leaders" were asked to form work crews to
repair the destruction of the city parks, yet not one rider cared
enough to show up. The rampant lack of respect for Kelowna's parks by
the mountain biking community is the main reason why I did not renew
my contract within the park.

Over the course of 6 years, the mountain biking community of Kelowna
has shown no concern for the park itself, and as such and for the sake
of the park, should be banned completely. It will take 20 years to
repair the damage of their unauthorised rides.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Alas, the true Biker!:

http://latinolaughter.files.wordpres...07/12/camp.jpg

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:50:13 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

.

You have serious posting issues, OR you have killfiled Mike and reply to him
anyhow via the posts of others.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
again, even though it isn't his Name!

That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
it's me, LIAR.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:06:27 -0700 (PDT), chatnoir
wrote:



Mike Vandeman wrote:
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:02:25 -0700
Subject: The truth about mountain biking in a nutshell

The best recommended comment from the story about Kelowna's illegal
mtb courses. The truth. It happens here, too -- not just in the USA
and California, etc., like the Mayor likes to remind me. This guy,
"Joe Public", could not have stated it better:

"I was the live-in caretaker on Knox Mountain for two years. This is a
city park and not a mountain bike course and the problem lies
completely with the mentality of the mountain bikers. The city parks
department went to great lengths to allow and accomodate mountain
bikers within the park by discussing needs with mountain bikers and by
creating authorised trails for them to use.

The problem is that most mountain bikers want to do what they want and
go where they want to go. They do not like to follow trails or remain
is selected areas, they like to create trails and jumps, and they are
destroying the park in the process.

I have personally spoken to several "leaders" of local mountain bike
clubs and several owners of local mountain bike stores. Up front they
claim to be supportive of the park rules, yet when they think that no
one is watching, they lead groups of riders down pristine park fields,
creating new trails which will continue to erode for decades, or they
sneak into the park after hours to ride with headlamps.

When approached on unauthorised trails, university educated riders
claim to have not seen the signs and curiously, the next time you
catch them on the same unauthorised trails, the signs have all been
knocked down. These same "leaders" were asked to form work crews to
repair the destruction of the city parks, yet not one rider cared
enough to show up. The rampant lack of respect for Kelowna's parks by
the mountain biking community is the main reason why I did not renew
my contract within the park.

Over the course of 6 years, the mountain biking community of Kelowna
has shown no concern for the park itself, and as such and for the sake
of the park, should be banned completely. It will take 20 years to
repair the damage of their unauthorised rides.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Alas, the true Biker!:

http://latinolaughter.files.wordpres...07/12/camp.jpg

We know. Mountain biking causes impotence. The brain is the first
thing to go.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
again, even though it isn't his Name!

That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
it's me, LIAR.

Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
yourself.

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:30:46 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

My apoligies for my incorrect netiquette. Either way...I see his
response to my post was to try and pan off that photo as himself
again, even though it isn't his Name!

That's why you posted it: you thought you could convince people that
it's me, LIAR.

Actually, if you remember correctly, but knowing your mind's capacity
and your ailments will not allow this to take place...it was posted to
MAKE FUN and done so exactly as reads just because I knew it would
stick with YOU and bother YOU even though it wasn't you. Which it
evidently has worked well. You lie so often you can't keep up with
yourself.

You keep changing your story, but you still haven't answered why you
felt it necessary to LIE!

Still waiting for your explanation of why you deliberately LIED:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

You aren't going to live this down, until you admit your dishonesty.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande